On Oct 22, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Scott Griepentrog <[email protected]> wrote:
> > is asterisk abandoning the dial plan? > > It's clear that there is a desire to have a way of running Asterisk with > little or no dialplan. While currently there is no way to abandon the > dialplan as you point out, that could actually happen, someday, many years > and versions from now. But even then I would expect there could be a > loadable module to add dialplan support for those who still need it, where > the dependencies on dialplan have since been removed from the core. > There has to be some more justification for such a profound change to a mature product interface than some vague desire by unknown persons who know best for the entire Asterisk community. > So, to answer your question, yes, and no. > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Paul Albrecht <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Matthew Jordan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Paul Albrecht <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Joshua Colp <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Paul Albrecht wrote: >> >> Really? Shouldn’t something this major affecting the entire Asterisk >> >> community get discussed on the lists? Any idea what Leif is talking >> >> about when he says the community is in transition, moving from dial >> >> plan model to external control. >> > >> > It was something Ben Klang brought up and wanted to talk about - it's >> > not something that has been decided 'nor does anyone know what the >> > future entails. Any further discussions will naturally occur on the >> > mailing list and in fact some things have explicit action items to bring >> > them up on here. >> > >> >> The suggestion that Asterisk should consider deprecating AMI/AGI is “crazy >> talk.” It doesn’t merit discussion and shouldn’t be on the agenda in the >> first place. It’s completely impractical and can never happen. Moreover, >> Leif seems to think we (the asterisk community) are in transition. What does >> that mean? Are we abandoning the dial plan? Seriously? That’s never gonna >> happen either. ARI isn’t easier to use than dial plan scripting. I guess one >> could hope that "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas”, but I don’t think >> the Asterisk community has that kind of luck. >> >> >> Just because someone decided to bring up a radical idea does not mean we >> refuse to discuss it. >> > > So you agree that deprecating AMI/AGI is “crazy talk” but you’ll discuss it > because of your open-mindedness? > >> This is an open source project. Communication is done in an open, >> transparent manner. People should feel like they can bring up interesting, >> radical, and yes - even crazy - ideas. >> > > By the same token, when you propose ideas, you must be prepared for honest > criticism and accept it in graciously rather than simply resorting to > argument ad hominem. > >> If you don't like that, you don't have to participate in the discussion. >> > > You haven’t really responded to the substance of my post, that is, is > asterisk abandoning the dial plan? > >> -- >> Matthew Jordan >> Digium, Inc. | Engineering Manager >> 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA >> Check us out at: http://digium.com & http://asterisk.org >> -- >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: >> http://www.asterisk.org/hello >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > -- > > Scott Griepentrog > Digium, Inc · Software Developer > 445 Jan Davis Drive NW · Huntsville, AL 35806 · US > direct/fax: +1 256 428 6239 · mobile: +1 256 580 6090 > Check us out at: http://digium.com · http://asterisk.org > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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