I can add that to the list!

Matthew Fredrickson

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 2:40 AM, Dan Jenkins <dan.jenkin...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Matthew Jordan <mjor...@digium.com> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:00 AM, Dan Jenkins <dan.jenkin...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Matt Fredrickson <cres...@digium.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey All,
>>>>
>>>> I've been thinking a lot about how working groups might work within
>>>> the context of the Asterisk project.  Here are a few guidelines that I
>>>> have come up with governing working groups.  Some of these guidelines
>>>> come from the Node project, as they have a lot of pre-existing
>>>> material on doing this.  I deliberately avoided comprehensively
>>>> importing their structure and guidelines, but pulled from some of
>>>> their more essential core principles.
>>>>
>>>> 1. There is no explicit or implicit commitment that a working group’s
>>>> output will actually be turned into code/patches by Digium or anybody
>>>> else outside of the working group.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Some working group topics might include: documentation, feature
>>>> request list, benchmarking, debug-ability, bug tracker triaging and
>>>> replication, migration efforts from SIP to PJSIP (and more?)
>>>>
>>>> 3. They need somewhere to “work” - so a section of the asterisk.org
>>>> wiki and probably a mailing list.  This can be a work item for me to
>>>> get taken care of.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Need a regular (weekly?) meeting time and “place” (an Asterisk
>>>> conference call, IRC, a google hangout, etc).
>>>>
>>>> 5. Need a charter of some sort - a charter would be a clearly defined
>>>> mission statement determining the subject matter of the group’s
>>>> efforts.
>>>>
>>>> 6. Need at least three initial members (pulled from node.js guidelines)
>>>>
>>>> 7. Need to follow a consensus seeking process for any decisions
>>>> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus-seeking_decision-making)
>>>>
>>>> 8. Membership cannot be changed (added or removed) without unanimous
>>>> consensus of the members of the group (pulled from node.js guidelines)
>>>>
>>>> 9. In order to create one, talk to me and I can see about getting
>>>> infrastructure (mailing list, wiki, git access) setup.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you have any thoughts, questions, or qualms with the
>>>> above guidelines.  I'll wiki-fy the results of any discussion here.
>>>>
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>>>> Matthew Fredrickson
>>>> Digium, Inc. | Engineering Manager
>>>> 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA
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>>>
>>> Hi Matt,
>>>
>>> Firstly, thanks for compiling all of this.
>>>
>>> Some comments around having the discussions etc.
>>>
>>> Please, no more mailing lists. Please? I'd rather not use the wiki for
>>> working groups - the wiki doesn't encourage conversation; instead its a
>>> place to go to document something and maybe write some comments on it - its
>>> really not the best place to have a conversation - I guess this is where the
>>> mailing lists come in but I'd love to get away from mailing lists - we have
>>> discourse now for example which is a MUCH better environment to have these
>>> conversations. I'd personally like to just replicate the node.js environment
>>> on github, with github issues and labels etc but its been made clear that
>>> isn't really an option unfortunately.
>>>
>>> There was talk of needing at least one core contributor (doesn't need to
>>> be a digium employee in my mind) to be one of the 3 initial members - is
>>> this still true?
>>>
>>
>> I mentioned that I thought it would be a good idea to have an Asterisk
>> Developer involved in any working group, simply as they can help to validate
>> the feasibility of an idea. Whether or not that should be a requirement is
>> up for debate.
>>
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>> Digium, Inc. | CTO
>> 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA
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> Matt J - I like the idea personally - it was just missing from the list Matt
> F made :)
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