> On 30 Jun 2023, at 13:45, aster...@phreaknet.org wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
>      I've put up a PR to deprecate users.conf[1], following a discussion 
> earlier this year about this, but I think that was on IRC so wanted to 
> discuss here as well.
> 
> Mark introduced users.conf at some point in the early 2000s with the idea of 
> it being a "simple" way to configure certain things, but I think time has 
> shown that to be its primary weakness. New modules haven't supported 
> users.conf in a long time (such as PJSIP), and now that chan_sip is already 
> gone, there is basically no point in keeping users.conf around anymore. The 
> main two modules that still "support" it (if you can call the hack job 
> parsing they do "support") are chan_dahdi and chan_iax2, and the 
> configuration for both of these is almost entirely non-overlapping and really 
> needs to be configured in the appropriate module config file anyways.
It was a bad hack from the start with a poor architecture. Time to remove it.
+100

/O
> 
> Therefore, I am proposing this be deprecated in 21 so that it can be removed 
> in 23, in accordance with the Asterisk deprecation policy:
> 
> * Support for users.conf has dwindled as new modules no longer support
>   it and modules that did support it (e.g. chan_sip) have been largely
>   removed
> * No real functionality has been added to the users.conf mechanism
>   since it was introduced. New features are added to specific modules,
>   but these are not supported in users.conf
> * users.conf was a super simplistic mechanism that in practice did not
>   pan out. It's something that really should never have been added in
>   the first place. Use of it has been widely discouraged since it was
>   introduction, and caused confusion for Asterisk newcomers,
>   particularly with a default install where users see warnings about
>   users.conf. Users should not be using it and the fact that the
>   sample config still exists continues to create confusion
> * Removing users.conf will help eliminate technical debt, allowing for
>   simplification of the codebase and easier maintenance going forward
> 
> This is somewhat different as users.conf is not any single module, and 
> there's no real process for deprecating a config file, but a warning message 
> is added when the PBX loads here so that users will see a notice about it, 
> just like with deprecated modules. It's also in the upgrade notes. This is a 
> master only change, so it won't be removed until late 2025 at the earliest.
> 
> Any objections or other thoughts on this matter?
> 
> [1] https://github.com/asterisk/asterisk/pull/184
> 
> 
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