Jeremy McNamara
Steve Lane wrote:
Nufone won't answer their phones. I am very interested in finding out pricing from them as Jeremy stated they are very good with their rates.
Steve
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Roach Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:23 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?
I think Jeff Pulver (pulver.com) was trying to do this with his Free World Dialup program at one point. Haven't been paying that much attention, though. You might poke around http://www.pulver.com/ to see if there's something there that interests you.
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-----Original Message----- From: Dan Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 22:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?
This idea has been floating around in my head. I don't think the needed 'critical mass' has been reached, but I suspect at some point a co-op style arrangement could be reached.
disclaimer: I have played with *, and am deploying Cisco Call Manager. I don't see any technical reason why the following would not work, but it is open for abuse, so there may be enough socio-political reasons to not even try.
Ingredients: 1. A * server 2. A friend with an * server in another city/state/country 3. A way to locate like minded individuals/orginizations 4. Moderately over-built local PSTN connectivity
Mix it together with a gentlemans agreement, or strongly worded contract. Co-ordinate or advertise local number ranges.
Problems: People looking to save ~$30 per line won't be thrilled to order T1(s) to share with the co-op. Keeping a structured dial-plan to provide for reasonable overlap without massive meltdowns. There are many businesses springing up to fill this void, and they will be better suited to manage and grow the infrastructure. I've watched the discussions about IAX/SIP service providers, and most seem to be geared exclusively to the single user/line household. I know a number of small businesses that would jump to a VoIP carrier that allowed concurrent calls, heck my family has one. And I suspect that a number of the smaller/newer VoIP carriers might be entertaining partnerships with their competitors whose footprint compliments their own.
Oh, and let's not forget that the traditional carriers are not ignorant
of what is happening with VoIP or customer interest. There is no doubt
that they are aware that if they don't find a way to deliver this service,
someone else will.
Dan (who, if he had a decent PSTN connected * box, would be willing to share)
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Ciholas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:42 PM To: Ernest W. Lessenger Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Ernest W. Lessenger wrote:
At 04:48 PM 8/20/2003 -0500, you wrote:Oh well. I'm would expect no one would have presence here. This sounds so suboptimal, you have to provision *two* systems,
Now, if that is possible, how does the VoIP dial tone providerYou would need to redirect your local number to them. This
get my inbound local and toll calls? I would want my "local"
phone number to work, of course.
ALWAYS assumes that the VoIP provider has a switch in your
local CO or an agreement with someone who does. Vonage and
Voicepulse, for example, do not have a presence in my area. I
intend to maintain several POTS lines for incoming calls, and
use a VoIP provider for all outgoing calls.
one for inbound (local CO) and one for outbound (VoIP provider). Of course, the outbound can be just your internet connection, but this still seems annoying because most of the money is in the local CO service.
Hmm, perhaps *all* incoming calls can be toll free? I would
maintain the one local CO POTS line for 911 out bound, and then
only use my toll free number for inbound. For the money I would
save on local CO lines I can buy a *lot* of toll free minutes! Then the VoIP dial tone provider can route my toll free number to
me over the internet. Presumably, then, there is no real limit
on the number of "lines" coming in. It isn't hard coded like the
CO lines are.
This all seems pretty fanciful at the moment...
-- Mike Ciholas (812) 476-2721 voice CIHOLAS Enterprises (812) 476-2881 fax 2626 Kotter Ave, Unit D [EMAIL PROTECTED] Evansville, IN 47715 http://www.ciholas.com
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