Might be worth asking the owner of voip-info.org if the mailing list link can go on the left sidebar permanently?
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wiley Siler Sent: 28 June 2005 16:26 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] list Searchability Great points Steve. I think the best we can do is all throw the newbies a bone ounce in a while. Redirection to the content that is relevant is enough to get most people on the path. Like you said, the hardest part is not seeing the trees for the forest. This is the whole "teach a man to fish" parable. It is pretty easy to tell someone A) How to search and where to look B) The basics of what Asterisk can do C) How to be a good list citizen With those tools, almost anyone can get their start here and beat the learning curve. Like it has been pointed out, there is not much else we can do with so much information in a free flowing format. Cheers, Wiley -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve szmidt Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:00 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt On Monday 27 June 2005 20:04, Robert Webb wrote: > > I agree with that fact the same questions get posted, but > > that problem is compounded by the fact the archives are not > > really searchable. If the were as lease some users would search. > > The archives need to be fully indexed. > > In a Google search box: site:lists.digium.com "What you are searching > for" The problem many newbies faces is TOO MUCH information. Not being able to see the trees because of the forest basically. It does not matter either if it has been discussed until someone went crazy or died. The reason it keeps coming up is because it has not been solved. I totally agree with why. I sure don't want to be the one babysitting them. These posts were simply pointing out what I think, as a former educator, is part of the problem. Something which is not that hard to do. And indeed during some spare times I may put together something which is a lower gradient for those who have a hard time getting it. I sure would like to. Now it could very well be that many of these people never get anywhere because it's just too hard for them. But I know when I started a few years back, that a lot of the howto's have a stiff gradient. It skips pieces of information, assumes knowledge which is hard to come by and so on. Standard stuff. I'm not assuming or expecting that anyone is going to act on what I'm saying. If it was easy someone would have already implemented it. But I am saying that I see there are things that CAN be done which will make it easier. And if it makes it easier, this list will have less "stupid" and repetitive questions. More people will win using Asterisk and we should all win. (Except those who prefer fewer people competed in this arena. And there are a few here who are happy it's hard for others to take part of the fruit. There always are.) -- Steve Szmidt "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users The information contained in this email is intended for the personal and confidential use of the addressee only. It may also be privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient then you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, distribution or copying of this document is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Brendata immediately on: +44 (0)1268 466100, or email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Brendata (UK) Ltd Nevendon Hall, Nevendon Road, Basildon, Essex. SS13 1BX UK Registered Office as above. Registered in England No. 2764339 See our current vacancies at www.brendata.co.uk _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
