Steve Underwood wrote:

Steve Kennedy wrote:

On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 08:43:07PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 11:59:04AM -0400, Mike M wrote:
On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 09:20:07AM -0400, Paul wrote:
Closed source might delay the cracker but it also delays pre-crack and post-crack countermeasures.

What's the alternative? Open source? Cracking is unnecessary with open
source.

Search a bit about "security by obscurity". Basically if the security of
your system depends on a secret you can't easily change, it will get
exposed sooner or later. So you should design it to withstand such
leakage. E.g: change a password if it was exposed.


As this was related to Mastercard/Visa, they can allow open source,
however the software has to be certified to meet their security specs,
which may be harder to accomplish for open source.
It's not harder. It's just different. A number of things have similar requirements. The ISDN4Linux folk have certain versions of their software approved by the telecoms bodies in Europe. They need to tie down exactly what was approved, so any other versions emit a notice that says they are unapproved versions. They do this with a signature on the approved version. It seems to work out OK.

Regards,
Steve

I think that the important thing to remember is that a good reverse engineer can take the object code from a rom and produce source files that are better commented than the original source ever was. I close my source because it's mine and it's none of your business but I don't get a false sense of security from doing that. There are people who specialize in taking gate array chips apart in a very careful manner in order to get the programmed logic patterns using a microscope. If I can buy/build a good enough logic analyzer I can get what I need without even powering down your product. So consider that if I can clone your electronic key device, disassembling the binaries for your closed source software is a minor obstacle.


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