On Friday 28 October 2005 07:30, C F wrote: > As I said it could exist, but I'm only guessing here that the posts > about ADSI over SIP channels are (again this just my guess) only for > the SIP channel to allow for the ADSI scripts to be downloaded into > the phones. Since it's like faxing that doesn't really work nicely > over SIP (or VoIP for that matter). SIP in itself will never support > ADSI, since its stupid to do so (what they all do now is xml or xhtml > based services like what Cisco and Polycom support). But ATAs that use > SIP might have an ADSI compliant phone connected to the ATA and that > needs to be able to download the ADSI scripts which right now works > best over PRI or analog but not VoIP. > As for the the theory that a softphone that supports ADSI could exist, > while I can't deny it, there will at best be one for testing the real > analog phones, but not for actual end user usage. > ADSI is a technology that allows: > 1. The execution of scripts on the phone, thru which communication > between the phone and the host (in our case Asterisk) is done using > soft buttons on the phone, that are sent as DTMF to the host. > 2. The download of scripts and info from the host to the phone, so > that the phone will display the right softbuttons, at the right time. > For 1 any phone soft or hardphone works (since it's all just DTMF), > what the ADSI application does is script those DTMF commands. You can > take any phone and create a speed dial that sends the DTMF you want, > but it wont be interactive. However if you have an ADSI phone the > scripts will get activated and send the DTMF commands using > softbuttons that get updated using the ADSI script it downloaded using > 2 above. For that reason you can take an ADSI phone that has been > preprogrammed let's say for Asterisk and have it plugged into to an > ATA and it should be able to do most of the magic stuff. > Number 2 above will run into problems if you don't use PRI or POTS, > since it relies on analog technology like faxing, that is (again my > guess) what the posts at asterisk-dev have been about. > For the above reasons a real good excuse is needed to explain why, and > how a softphone ADSI could be created, when we now have php, perl, and > what not. > CallerID is just one thing that ADSI did for us, the 390 or 450 do much > more. > > Some more info: > http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/adsi_conf.html >
Thanks, thats a good link. Chris Coulthurst, thank you for your recommendation. Thats exactly what I would like to know: what phone people are using and which work good with Asterisk voicemail. Dmitry. > On 10/27/05, Chris Coulthurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So much for not stepping on toes. > > > > Incidently, there have been dev-asterisk posts in the past relating to > > ADSI tones being processed through a SIP channel, so theoretically, a > > softphone 'could' exist. I've been hard-pressed just to find any > > documentation via google explaining any ADSI-command-standards-list. > > I've seen some ADSI telephones that have little more than glorified > > caller ID, while others (like the 390 or 450) that have priorities, soft > > keys, etc etc) > > > > So, yes, it is also possible that a softphone could exist.... > > > > Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "C F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" > > <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] please recommend phones with adsi. > > > > On 10/27/05, Chris Coulthurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I sure like my Aastra 390, the voicemail ADSI app works pretty well > > > (only a > > > couple of incompleted functions, like not exiting by hanging up the > > > speakerphone, rather than go to a reorder tone. > > > > > > As for the 'look at the wiki' comment, I'm not trying to get on > > > anyone's badside, but Dmitry was asking for recommendations, not > > > documentation. Sorry, not pointing fingers, but I see that 'blanket > > > answer' of going to to > > > Wiki all too often on here lately ;) > > > > I hope you are talking about the same post from Dmitry. The following > > > > is Dmitrys post: > > > > Hello, > > > > can somebody recommend me any hard or may be even softphones which > > > > support > > > > ADSI. I would like to work with Asterisk voicemail application using > > > > ADSI. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dmitry > > > > For which I responded look at the wiki and I even included a direct > > link to the wiki. I don't see in any way how this doesn't answer his > > question. In any case it sure doesn't look like he has any clue of > > *any* ADSI phones, since he asking for a softphone that supports ADSI, > > while I can't say it doens't exist or there is no use for it (BTW, I'm > > almost sure it doesn't exist), there sure isn't a market for it. Since > > ADSI is something made to work on Analog networks. > > > > While if you were asking for good jazz music the Sam Goody answer > > wouldn't do, if you had no clue what jazz music is then the Sam Goody > > answer is the right answer. > > > > In most cases when you see that blanket answer of go to the wiki, it > > is becuase the person posting the question has thru the question told > > everyone I havn't seen the wiki yet. Which BTW was the case here. > > > > Hope this helps you understand why that answer was in place. Please > > don't take this as being on my badside I'm just trying to explain to > > you what RTFM means. > > > > All of us are busy with somethings, we take our time to answer the > > questions here on the list it doesn't mean that we are here to do the > > work for you so that you could be a lazy bum. If someone is lacking > > the knowledge of searching the wiki and shows that thru posting that > > question of any soft phones supporting ADSI, I answerd the question > > with the most repect I could gather for the 2 seconds by directing > > them to the wiki, since with that question they showed they had no > > clue the wiki exists, and if Dmitry will tell me that he did know > > about the wiki and still posted the question the way he did, then he > > did not deserve my 2 seconds. > > _______________________________________________ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- > > > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- > > > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
