Well, I know I will be attacked for saying this, as cursed are those who say 
anything bad about Asterisk, but for an application that is 'enterprise-grade' 
as Digium tourts, it has several flaws that IMHO disqualify it as 
'enterprise-grade'. I mean, really, c'mon... think about it... an application 
that doesn't support the use of a database for common location/registration 
information is hardly 'enterprise-grade'. Just off the top of my head, other 
disqualifiers would be:
 
1. SIP subscriptions are stored in memory and cleared when you do a 'reload'. 
So, if you make any configuration changes and 'reload' you lose all your BLF 
lights. People take this stuff for granted and expect it to work.
 
2. No common SIP registration information. Not even using realtime with SIP 
users, which doesn't work, there's no way outside this to share location info 
between more than one (ie 'enterprise-grade') Asterisk systems.
 
3. The 'Dial' application seem to have very limited ability to be able to 
determine what SIP response it gets back from a peer. "Not Found", "Busy", 
"Moved" etc. I know Asterisk isn't a SIP proxy, but without the ability to 
check the SIP message status in a dial, it makes redundancy very very 
difficult. Redundancy is normally an important part of 'enterprise-grade'. 
Without this, how do you get upstream redundancy? I have something working 
right now, but it isn't pretty!
 
4. DNS SRV lookups aren't implemented properly. Another important part of 
redundancy and 'enterprise-grade' software.
 
Before you all go ripping my head off and defecating down my neck for saying 
anything bad about Asterisk (well CF can, I expect that), this is just my 
opinion based on real world frustrations with Asterisk. These are intended to 
be constructive criticisms.
 
Maybe some from Digium will read this email and it will make a 0.001% 
contribution towards some of these things being fixed. Oh, and no... I can't 
switch to another solution. The decision was made above my head to go with 
Asterisk. It's my job to make it do all that 'enterprise-grade' stuff.
 
Doug.
 

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Tue 12/20/2005 8:02 PM 
        To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
        Cc: 
        Subject: Re: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SIP Subscriptions
        
        

        > C F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        >
        > On 12/20/05, Douglas Garstang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        > > Digium needs people like me, if they read this list that is. They 
sure
        > don't seem to be able to make real-world functionality decisions on
        > their own.
        > >
        >
        > You are so right, how did we do without you the last few
        > years???????????
        
        By living on baked beans and cabbage.
        
        PaulH
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