It was Digium's opinion that perhaps the card had a VPM.  We got a replacement TE411P, I implemented it tonight and still the exact same echo problem.  At this point I feel like I can rule out failed hardware. 

I contacted Digium support and now they are telling me it's something with my carrier, and I should call them.  I called Bellsouth, and they ran a full stress test on the circuit taking me offline for about 30 minutes. 

The end result is that the circuit test passed with no errors.  Bellsouth says it's not in their network, Digium says its not their card, and I have a te411p with VPM disabled in the wct4xx kernel module because something doesn't work the way it should.  My customer is wanting to know about sangoma cards with the echo cancellation, and at this point I'm nervous to recommend any hardware.  I'm going to look into the sangoma that you suggested.  Are there any other kinds of products that I could look into either Passive or Active.

Thanks

Stagg Shelton
www.oneringnetworks.com


Matt wrote:
try sangoma carrier grade 104d hardware EC card. we're using it ourself.

Best Regards

Matt
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo


  
For what it's worth, we have been going through very similar issues
with a TE411P - with Digium support, we have basically gone as far as
we can with the HW EC, and are now using MG2 with much better results.

We have a Ditech EC box on order.....

Regards,
-- 
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District of North Vancouver
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On Feb 7, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Matthew Fredrickson wrote:

    
On Feb 5, 2006, at 9:36 PM, Stagg Shelton wrote:

      
I just implemented a system using a TE411P hardware echo cancellation
card. Per Digium, I setup zaptel.conf, and zapata.conf the same way
        
as
      
I always have. To my surprise calls out to the PSTN had a terrible
echo. 1 - 2 second delay, and quite clear. The echo was so bad that
        
I
      
had to remove the hardware echo cancellation module from the card.
        
We
      
are only using the 1st span of this card right now, and we have a
tdm400p with 4 fxs modules installed as well.

If anyone has experience with this card, can you tell me if I am
missing
something.
        
1 to 2 seconds?! That's ridiculously huge. I don't think you'll find
a echo canceler anywhere that can fix your echo problem. If it gets
better with the VPM disabled, then definitely contact Digium
tech-support about it.

Matthew Fredrickson

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