Hi gang:
 
Regarding the Centrex, I have digital centrex and joined this group to see if I could learn a bit more about VOIP (as my PBX died unexpectedly and I'm moving towards a hosted PBX over VOIP).
 
Here's how Centrex works.  You get a number of Centrex lines and then run your extensions as you would with a standard POTS system.  Each Centrex line has its' own number, so in a large business, you would use each line as a unique extension giving a direct dial capability to an individual extension.
 
You're describing a small business.  If they have 2 Centrex lines, they can be on 2 simultaneous calls.  Those calls can be incoming, outgoing, conference, fax, etc.  However, you cannot be on more calls at the same time than the number of lines that you have, other than conference or switching between calls (as the switching is done central office). 
 
In my office, we have 3 Centrex voice lines (1 dedicated fax), 6 extensions and 5 employees.  It's rare that we have 5 employees in at the same time and even more unlikely that 3 people are on the phone at the same time, so the combination of a PBX with Centrex was to our advantage.
 
Why Centrex for us?  Because when I locked into it, 11 years ago, I locked my telephone pricing for 7 years.  It was a time of uncertainty due to deregulation and I stuck with Verizon (then NY Telephone?) and reduced my then current costs by 35%.  The features of Centrex were not of much value to my employees (as they don't think outside of the box), but the cost savings were of instant value.
 
Some years later, I installed an inexpensive PBX which gave me voicemail and better internal call handling.  The cost savings from that came a bit later.  Utility that I discovered, was the ability to make 1 of my 3 Centrex lines (the last line in the ring pattern) an unlimited outgoing line.  Having done that, I made that the line that was picked up when somebody lifted a receiver to make an outgoing call.  Our primary number was still advertised for incoming calls.  That tactic reduced my local, long distance and regional calling costs by approximately $30 per month.
 
So, what's the advantage of Centrex for a 2 line business?  The package of call forwarding, call waiting, etc. and perhaps some cost.  They can transfer between the phones, however, I assume if it's a 2 line business, they are too small for that to be of much value.
 
The utility provided by VOIP PBX is much greater (if they can take advantage).  Voicemail emailed, transfer to outside phones, ringblasts, ext.
 
Now for the cost implications:  My current 4 lines cost me $160/mo.  Going to VOIP hosted PBX, I will pay approx. $50/mo each for unlimited outgoing lines.  (That get's me 3 for the same price, however, I will still have to maintain a dedicated fax line which will be POTS for the moment).  What I can't get my head around, is how to increase my total quantity of VOIP extensions for the same price as I'm currently paying.  It's not that I use more than 3 phones at 1 time, it's that I would like to be able to pick one up on the front counter as a convenience, or if my installer has calls to make, he can make them from his desk, rather than passing a phone back and forth.
 
It appears that your client, may be in a similar quandry without understanding the value of the technology.  Remember, for a geek it's the coolness of the stuff, however for the rest of the world, it's about what will it do for me.  Not that you can transfer a call to a cell phone and then back to the office, but that you can be more accessible to your client which will make you more important to them.
 
Now, if any of you experts have thoughts on how I can make this work better for me, I'm all ears.  At the moment I have Packet 8 (on a trial basis) but am heading towards Aptela because it appears that their system is more flexible and business oriented.  The one thing I need to get away from is maintaining a system myself, which is why I haven't put in a server with Asterisk on it. 
 
Rick
 
Rick Smith
JDR Windows Inc
Providing quality window treatments throughout North America
914-666-5777 x.13
914-666-5796 (fax)
 
 
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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] [OT] Centrex Question
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I haven't dealt with Centrex for a long time, and one of my customers is
being courted heavily by a Sprint salesperson.

Am I not correct in assuming that each "line" of Centrex corresponds to
an "extension" in the PBX world?

This site has 2 POTS lines and 5 extensions, and they told me that for
the same thing they're paying right now (~$40/POTS line) they will be
getting two Centrex "lines" that will do the same thing.

The way I understood it, each of those two Centrex lines is an extension.

In general, would they still be paying their POTS fees, too?

Sorry for the noise, but I can't discuss this intelligently with them,
and that's hurting me.

Thanks.

B.
 
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