On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 05:32:24PM -0500, nephish wrote:
> cool thanks, ok, here you go
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -lAr /dev/zap/
> total 0
> crw-rw----  1 root root 196, 253 2006-07-07 14:14 timer
> crw-rw----  1 root root 196, 255 2006-07-07 14:14 pseudo
> crw-rw----  1 root root 196,   0 2006-07-07 14:14 ctl
> crw-rw----  1 root root 196, 254 2006-07-07 14:14 channel
> crw-rw----  1 root root 196,   4 2006-07-07 14:14 4
> crw-rw----  1 root root 196,   3 2006-07-07 14:14 3
> crw-rw----  1 root root 196,   2 2006-07-07 14:14 2
> crw-rw----  1 root root 196,   1 2006-07-07 14:14 1

hmmm... What version of udev do you use?
dpkg -l udev

See http://bugs.debian.org/316801

An answer to bug report there mentions the fix:

  You need to add the following line to /etc/udev/permissions.rules :

  SUBSYSTEM=="zaptel",    GROUP="dialout"

However udev in Etch should have this by now.

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