Seems like we got another person that misses words written in plain English.

On 10/11/06, J. Oquendo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
C F wrote:

> OK, I'll agree with you that I'm looking at a point of view from
> Enterprise lever and not carrier level, BTW, NFAS for redundancy is in
> most cases a waste of money (again enterprise POV), since if one T1 is
> down usually all of them from the same provider will be down.

You must have dealt with cruddy providers in your time. Ever hear of a
smart jack just being bad on one T1 while others work fine. I have. For
matters of redundancy I would hope some would have looked into a Shadow
T. Heck most *newer* (so called) engineers haven't even heard the term.


That's precisely the reason I wrote *usually all...*

> The fact that they you have multiple IP-SIP/PSTN gateways should not
> imply that you can't have 16k extens on all of them.

Why can't you. While it might not be practical, doesn't mean you can't/

Why are you repeating my point?


> I agree that if an asterisk box dies (I don't know how such a thing in
> a well controlled stable system will happen, but I guess with a bug in
> an agi it could happen, then that will be another reason not to use
> AGIs for me) you need another one to take over, but again why would it
> die to begin with?

Oh please, I can kill Asterisk (all versions) with 13 packets. Re-read
that statement. 13 packets. All versions. Digium staffers know this.
Throw it behind your SBC, take your pick nCite, Newport Networks,
Acme, Nextone.


Wow, you got some talent, last time I checked this thread wasn't about
security, BTW I can kill it with a sledgehammer.


> What other component could or fails out of the blue? Surge protection
> with even a cheap UPS will protect from lightening.

No it won't. I've had plenty of burnouts using Rhino channel banks that
were behind APC's InfraStruXure line of product.s

Plenty implies at least 2 burnouts, was that at the same location or
at 2 different ones? and did it only burn out the channel banks or
also some coffee machine? Did you also have a tire blowout at one
point in your life? what about slipping on a banana peel? Keep to the
point, we are *not* talking about cards, we are talking about the
whole system failing because of a lighting. Although I'm sure it has
happened even behind a good surge and/or UPS system. If the whole
building gets hit you are again out of luck.


> Motherboards in a
> well regulated maintained system that is ventilated good, don't just
> die.

They don't? Funny, I've seen it happen from everything from AMD, Sun,
HP, SGI, you name it.

You are telling me that it was: A. Well regulated B. Well maintained
C. good ventilation, and it died suddenly, without giving you any
hints before hand?
I just don't believe you, I might have on one machine, but I'm not
going to believe you since you said you seen it on every machine. BTW,
have you ever seen a machine that survived everything and was just
taken to the dump because it was outdated and wasn't needed anymore?


> Hard drives should be installed in an array (have you ever heard
> of RAID). CPUs when the heat is taken care of, don't just die.

Oh really? Sounds like you live in hardware Nirvana. How long have you
been in the computing environment?

No they don't, they give some warnings like too hot.


> Memory if the right motherboard is used,
> and you have more than one bank, it will just isolate the bad bank.

Will it?

oct 10 21:37:30 sunw,ultrasparc-iie: [id 521363 kern.warning]
    warning: [aft1] uncorrectable memory error on cpu0 data access at
    tl=0, errid 0x00014e44.b98167c1

The above confirms again that you have some dyslexia problems. Read
again: *if the right motherboard is uses*. You obviously aren't using
the right motherboard.


Funny, that seems to reboot the entire machine. I thought in your
Nirvana it would be isolated. How many architectures outside of a
simple i386 arena have you PROFESSIONALLY administrated? (Dell
Optiplex's don't count nor do Poweredge)

Do you want the answer?


> So I ask you, what component could fail in a way that it should take
> more than an hour to bring it back up?

I suggest you send the list information on all of your vendors so
we could all move to this fairy tale land of computer heaven.

Can you answer the question? Again you seem to miss the point.


> BTW, I'm not looking for a job. I wouldn't work for your boss anyhow,
> and the senior guy working with you, judging from you, he doesn't seem
> to be good at judging people.

Blah to the rest of your post. You make little sense. As for looking for
a job. Send a resume down my way, I need something to keep the coffee
from spilling on my Pix' and Netscreens.

That does show for someone that PROFESSIONALLY administrates computers.


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