Anton Krall wrote:

This is exactly one of the things that Steve and I discussed a bit ago...
when did asterisk turn from an open source project with very good developers
into a business that only focuses in $$$?

Well, I think that there can be no doubt that there still are some very good developers working on Asterisk, but yes, I do understand what you're saying, and I think that we're not the only ones that have noticed it. In particular I've noticed how the disclaimer requirement is a sore spot, and as well how impossibly difficult it is for Digium competitors to get their patches applied to the code base:

http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=7742

That’s why openpbx was born I guess....

In part, yes. I think that some of these things are like lead weights to the Asterisk development process - I think that Steve Underwood appreciated the unfettered CVS commit access to the OpenPBX repository. That's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that Asterisk may have been able to have, itself, possibly. I see Steve's participation in OpenPBX as a big selling point (i.e. real T.38 gatewaying and actual spandsp integration). However, there's a lot of momentum behind Asterisk, and that's compensated somewhat for its lead weights up until now, and OpenPBX can't seem to get a public release out.

At Cluecon last year in Chicago anthm told the conference how it was his belief that it would be better to start from scratch than to fix up all of the problems with Asterisk like OpenPBX is attempting - and thus we have FreeSWITCH.

So there are lots of possibilities out there, and I can only think that the lead weights in the Asterisk development process will eventually lead to more issues than with chan_unicall.

For example, samba is still free, and people are making a profit from it by
giving out consulting services for deploying samba.. that is a good working
scenario.... asterisk used to be the same.... can you spell greedy :)?

Well, when you sell consulting services for deploying Samba your business focus is still on the software. If they were selling Samba-related hardware or were heavily involved in selling Samba-related things like books and tee-shirts, etc., instead of actually working the software itself... well, then I think you'd see the same kinds of problems that you're frustrated with now. It's all too easy for that business activity to become a conflict of interest when it's not directly related to the user-experienced software itself.

Lee.

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