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I am trying to automatically detect disconnected numbers when using the 
outbound dialer I have written.
 
* Some numbers hang up immediately with a Cause Code > 0 and no voice treatment
* Some numbers get voice treatment with a PROGRESS indication and an associated 
Cause Code > 0
* Some numbers get voice treatment with a PROGRESS indication and no associated 
cause code (CC=0)
 
My application can pick up the PROGRESS indication (if I get one) and handle 
the hangup, but not if I don't get a cause code!
 
Is there anything I can do to ensure that I always get a PROGRESS indication 
with cause code or a hangup with cause code? 
Behaviour of the PRI seems to differ across telcos and also across numbers.
 
I don't want to just assume hangup on PROGRESS indication as this may not be a 
disconnected number - it might be a forwarded or redirected number.
 
I need to achieve consistency and this is proving very difficult. 
 
Has anyone else had this issue and if so, which tree should I be barking up?
 
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Yep, I experienced this frequently.  I have several PRI vendors and they all 
give me the same line of crap: "Well, PRI is good, but it's not perfect..."  
Sad but true.  I feel comfortable in saying that there is no 100% guaranteed 
way of detecting disconnected numbers on a PRI.  I've done lots of testing and 
come to the conclusion that you have to do your best to work around it.  For 
example, I know that phone number xxx-yyy-zzzz is disconnected.  I dial it 25 
times with Asterisk.  18 times I get one cause code (like 'invalid' or fast 
busy - I don't recall the exact cause code number), 6 times I get PROGRESS 
indicating ring-no answer and 1 time I get traditional busy.  All calls to same 
phone number, same provider, made one right after the other.  Oddly enough, if 
I call the number on a POTS line I *ALWAYS* get the disconnect message.  It's 
one case where advanced technology yields poorer results than the old stuff.

I know that doesn't help but I wanted you to know that you're not alone.

-MC


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