Hi Bill,

I'm in exactly the same boat with T.38 and OpenPBX.  I too think the Cisco-T.38 
Gateway is the most practical at this moment.  Where are you on testing this 
and can you share the 3660 config?  In researching the CIsco/voice, there is a 
TON of hardware options you need, or so it seems.

Jon

-----Original message-----
From: "Bill Gibbs" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:02:18 -0500
To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial 
Discussion"[email protected]
Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] Fax with T.38

> Ray,
> 
> I have been playing with OpenPBX.  My core servers are Asterisk so I was 
> playing around with their T38Gateway application.  Long story short - I can 
> get the ATA (behind NAT) to talk T38 to the rxfax app on an OpenPBX server 
> but the gateway feature of that product is still under development so I was 
> sending IAX calls to it and it would try to talk T38 to my ATA (behind NAT or 
> public IP) and eventually the call would fail.  Clearly T38 was working 
> though, debug output was full of T38 talk.  However the wiki clearly states 
> it's experimental still.
> 
> I personally have decided to go with a 2nd PRI port to a 3660 I have on hand 
> that will do T38 SIP.  I am going to set that up to talk to * 1.4.0 and do 
> T38 pass through.  I to will be doing NAT for the ATAs so...hopefully it will 
> work.  We shall see.
> 
> So my call flow will be
> 
> PRI -> Asterisk 1.2.x
> Out the 2nd PRI to the 3660
> 3660 dial-peer, with T38 fax settings talk SIP to Asterisk 1.4.x then t38 
> pass through to my ATA.
> 
> I have the 3660 there to take the call via TDM and convert to T38.  I only 
> have a single PRI which is why I don't want to have to purchase other lines 
> dedicated to a T38 faxserver, and this will give me the ability to use my 
> DIDs already assigned.
> 
> That's how I plan to set it up.
> 
> Bill
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Jackson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:43 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax with T.38
> 
> Could anybody give me an authoritative answer on whether Asterisk can 
> support T.38 pass-through when the clients are behind NAT?  We have 
> Asterisk servicing clients behind NAT (with nat=route, canreinvite=no) 
> and would love to get T.38 going but have had no luck so far.  The 
> following case:
> 
> http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=7844
> 
> ...suggests that T.38 *does* now work for clients behind NAT but I have 
> the latest SVN trunk but still cannot get it to work?  On the other side 
> I have seen on this list only 2 weeks or so ago:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg172556.html
> 
> This suggests that T.38 does *NOT* work behind NAT?  So, can anybody 
> save me the trouble and tell me how it is.  Am I on a hiding to nothing 
> trying to get T.38 going with NAT?  Please put me out of my misery! :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Ray
> 
> PS. Does anybody know whether OpenPBX would support T.38 and NAT 
> configurations?  This was my backup plan if I couldn't get it to go in 
> Asterisk.
> 
> Thomas Deillon wrote:
> > Yes, the canreinvite means Re invite, but there is a consequence in 
> > Asterisk configuration.
> > 
> > For sure, all the signalisation traffic will go through the asterisk … 
> > but for the RTP traffic?
> > 
> > If canreinvite = No, all RTP traffic will go through the Asterisk 
> > (useful for NATed phoned without ALG/STUN/…)
> > 
> > If canreinvite = Yes, the phones will try to exchange RTP packets directly.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Do you thing there is a way to allow Re Invite (because you’re right) 
> > without the RTP consequence?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks a lot for your help,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thomas
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > *De :* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *De la part de* Rajnish 
> > Jain
> > *Envoyé :* lundi, 19. février 2007 16:25
> > *À :* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> > *Objet :* Re: [asterisk-users] Fax with T.38
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > A T.38 fax call typically begins as a normal voice media call. The 
> > call then dynamically switches over T.38 image media on detection of fax 
> > handshake tones.  The dynamic modification of session from audio to 
> > image is accomplished through SIP RE-INVITE messages. I would imagine 
> > canreinvite= flag controls if an end-point is allowed to send/recv 
> > RE-INVITE to/from Asterisk. If so, you'll need to set it to yes for T.38 
> > to work.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > On 2/19/07, *Thomas Deillon* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I make others tests.
> > Analog Fax 1 -> PATTON M-ATA -> Asterisk -> PATTON M-ATA -> Analog Fax2
> > 
> > It works only if I use canreinvite= yes.
> > But all my clients are behind a Nat without ALG or stun stuffs...
> > 
> > Do you know if canreinvite= yes it's the only way to make it works??
> > 
> > Thanks a lot for your help,
> > 
> > Thomas
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto: 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] De la part de Thomas 
> > Deillon
> > Envoyé: jeudi, 15. février 2007 11:26
> > À: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> > Objet: [asterisk-users] Fax with T.38
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I make mistakes in my explanation, so I will try to re-explain my problem…
> > 
> > I want to send fax with FoIP.
> > Analog Fax ← PSTN → PATTON SN4960 ←T.38→ Asterisk ←T.38→ PATTON M-ATA 
> > ←Analog→ Analog Fax 2
> > 
> > In the Patton SN4960 configuration I have :
> > profile voip FOIP
> > codec 1 g729 rx-length 20 tx-length 20 no-silence-suppression
> > codec 2 g711alaw64k rx-length 30 tx-length 30 no-silence-suppression
> > codec 3 g711ulaw64k rx-length 30 tx-length 30 no-silence-suppression
> > dtmf-relay signaling
> > dejitter-max-delay 100
> > fax transmission 1 relay t38-udp
> > fax redundancy low-speed 2 high-speed 1
> > fax detection fax-frames
> > modem transmission 1 bypass g711alaw64k
> > modem bypass-method nse
> > 
> > On Patton M-ATA :
> > 1. codec alaw
> > 2. codec ulaw
> > 3. codec g729
> > No silence suppression on these codecs.
> > I not use this option "FAX without T.38(Use G.711 fax)"
> > 
> > 
> > On asterisk side I have:
> > [general]
> > context=default
> > bindport=5060
> > bindaddr=0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0>
> > srvlookup=yes
> > disallow=all
> > allow=alaw
> > dtmfmode = rfc2833
> > rtcachefriends=yes
> > realm=vtxvoip
> > useragent=VTX SIP
> > rtupdate=yes
> > language=en
> > tos=184
> > notifyringing=yes
> > t38pt_udptl=yes
> > 
> > And t38pt_udptl=yes in the 2 PATTONs sip accounts …
> > 
> > 
> > Then, I made a trace when I call from Analog FAX 2 to Analog fax 1 ….
> > I received T.38 packets from the Patton sn4960 but no T.38 packets go 
> > through the Asterisk …. And on the asterisk I have 3 WARNINGS:
> > 
> > [Feb 15 10:05:24] WARNING[9167]: channel.c:3033 
> > ast_channel_make_compatible: No path to translate from 
> > SIP/sip_trunk_gva-01-0071e6b0(256) to SIP/0xxx0379xx-0070a490(8)
> > [Feb 15 10:05:33] WARNING[9163]: channel.c:2702 set_format: Unable to 
> > find a codec translation path from alaw to g729
> > [Feb 15 10:05:33] WARNING[9163]: channel.c:2702 set_format: Unable to 
> > find a codec translation path from alaw to g729
> > 
> > 
> > What I really not understand it's why asterisk try to translate from 
> > ulaw to g729 !!!
> > I disallow all and allow just the alaw codec … more than this, I remove 
> > the g729 licence file …
> > 
> > Do you have an idea for me ??
> > 
> > Thanks a lot,
> > 
> > Thomas
> > 
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