dovid... while this seems like a good idea to have both sip show channels and show channels sip.... having two, three or even four ways to do the same thing would confuse/cripple the learning curve... * would turn into a microsoft mentality where there are dozens of ways to configure/reconfigure some of their products... word, for example, can be configured with or without the tool bars and then you can configure hot-keys... in fact, you can configure some products so that someone who learns it with a hacked config, could not possibly use the original stock config... sorry to go on about this but it is one of my hot buttons... daveC
Dovid B wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:43 AM > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old! > > > >> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007, Johansson Olle E wrote: >> >> >>> I wonder if there are any major obstacles for upgrading. >>> >> How about the change from a bad command line interface to a really bad >> command line interface? >> >> I mean, Seriously? (in a Grey's Anatomy kind of way...) >> >> The old syntax was inconsistent -- "show manager command" vs "sip show >> channels" and just plain bad -- for example "sip reload" should have been >> "reload sip." >> >> The new syntax continues down the noun-verb path instead of correcting >> itself and using verb-noun like most other applications (MySQL, GDB, >> Oracle, etc.) >> >> Then, just to make it worse, now I have to learn which commands somebody >> (arbitrarily) decided are "core" and which are not -- for what benefit? >> Certainly doesn't make MY job easier! >> >> Approach the command line like a noob. I want Asterisk to show me >> something so I'll start the command line with "show." I'm not quite sure >> what I'm doing, so I'll press <TAB> to see what I can show. Oh, "channel" >> looks like what I want. Hmm, too much. Maybe I should have qualified what >> kind of channel I'm looking for BEFORE the word "channel." >> >> Here's a suggestion -- stop thinking like a parser and start thinking like >> a person :) >> >> Which makes more sense (at least in English)? >> >> 1) show black dogs -- show sip channels >> 2) black show dogs -- sip show channels >> 3) dogs black show -- channels sip show >> 4) show dogs black -- show channels sip >> 5) black dogs show -- sip channels show >> 6) dogs show black -- channels show sip >> >> Is it too late to fix this for 1.6? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> > > I think as many people have pointed out they are used to a lot of commands > out there so changing it yet again would make more people unhappy. But maybe > asterisk can have both. Why not sip show channels for the old timers and > show channels sip or show sip channels for the n00b's. Why shouldn't > asterisk have both options ? > > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > -- My wife's sister is in California. I should buy her a Videophone2008! Truly, The Next Best Thing to Being There! -- WorldWideVideoPhones.com 856.380.0894 _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
