James,

Huh?  Trying to understand your rambling reply....

I just like Sangoma because they "just work" and have excellent
support, I have no affiliation with them except being a very happy
customer.

You get what you pay for right?  I also think Adtran or Adit are great
products.  Not sure about Rhino especially after your irrational
response.

Some spokesman, I will stick with Adtran and Adit, not some cheap knock-off.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 9:36 AM, James Finstrom
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve,
>  Yes I work for Rhino that is no
>  Secret. If you read the post I was responding to the thread not pimping my 
> own products. I am not sure if your a Sangoma fanboy or employee since you 
> are apparently offended by my response, however he wasn't asking to be sold 
> to he was asking about specific products. So there it is yes I work for Rhino 
> and I could have easily given one of our italian distributors but he didn't 
> ask for that. It is not appropriate to troll the list and push your products 
> unsolicited. If someone is looking for a recommendation for a card brand 
> fine. If they need a solution like ADID or they need to accommodate funky CPC 
> signals from their telco which Rhino does fine it is on subject. If someone 
> asks should I use openvox to replace my digium you don't pimp your product 
> because it wasn't asked for. If you want my honest opinion. I prefer people 
> use Rhino products. I believe our products and support are superior but if 
> you don't use our cards use Digium. If your reply is any indication on how 
> Sandoma works I can honestly say go use a cheap clone before sangomaN they 
> may not support you but at least they are open about being here just for the 
> money.
>
> James Finstrom
>  Rhino Equipment Corp.
>  http://www.rhinoequipment.com
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Steve Totaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>  Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:45:50
>  To:Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial 
> Discussion<[email protected]>
>  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Digium stopped TDM400P  production: 
> alternatives??
>
>
>  James,
>
>  If you were replying to the original post about Openvox or specified
>  that is what you were referring to, maybe I would not take issue but to
>  reply to a suggesting to use Sangoma with what you did is absolutely
>  misleading.  There is nothing "cheap" or "clone" about Sangoma's cards.
>
>  "asterisk.rhinoequipment.com" hmmmmm.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Steve Totaro
>
>  James Finstrom wrote:
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>  >
>  > I would say email Kevin what he asked. The problem with switching to a
>  > clone company is you get what you pay for. Sticking with Digium you at
>  > least have support. and 3 clone cards and hours of troubleshooting
>  > later you will wish you hadn't been all cheap.
>  >
>  > Rob Hillis wrote:
>  >
>  >> The cards themselves are okay, but the extra level of configuration
>  >>  is a pain in the proverbial.  Zaptel is already double-configured
>  >> in both zaptel.conf and zapata.conf (that's not a complaint - I
>  >> understand the reason for the separation) but the Sangoma cards
>  >> require a /third/ level of configuration in Wanpipe.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Steve Totaro wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> Sangoma makes a good card.
>  >>>
>  >>> On 2/15/08, Kevin P. Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>> Giorgio Incantalupo wrote:
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>> Digium stopped to produce TDM400P and the new TDM410 is too
>  >>>>> new to find it in our shops. The only alternative available
>  >>>>> is  a "fully-compatible" Openvox product...but is it really
>  >>>>> "fully-compatible"? Any experience about Openvox products
>  >>>>> (card and zaptel versions, etc...)?
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>>
>  >>>> Every distributor that carried the TDM400P should have TDM410s
>  >>>> in stock already. Where are you located, and who do you buy
>  >>>> Digium cards from?
>  >>>>
>  >>>> -- Kevin P. Fleming Director of Software Technologies Digium,
>  >>>> Inc. - "The Genuine Asterisk Experience" (TM)
>  >>>>
>
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