I used to have hundred big HP 9000 boxes running HP-UX 11.0. Having some open th entrailsls of those big boys and due surgery was a damn good feeling. The also came with very very good HW diagnostics and had some place you cold send KERNEL Dumps on troubled system that was often a life saver
shadowym wrote: > You don't have to build Supermicro stuff yourself if you don't want to. > Most Supermicro dealers do it for you if you buy all the parts from them. > > It's true that what your doing with Dell/HP is paying for emotional support. > When it comes to PBX's you not getting any value paying for Dell/HP support. > If your getting good stuff you should never need their hardware replacement > warranty either. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Molina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:11 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage - HP Question > > > If you can't troubleshoot a hardware problem, then you should definitely not > be thinking about this. Going with a support-yourself plan is not for > everyone, especially if you don't have good hands-on hardware ability local > to where the systems are. > > The cost savings can be significant enough that you don't' need to worry > about third party support. Just buy some cold-spare systems. Out of eight > servers, you can buy three spares and still have money left over -- assuming > a three year life span for the systems and related support costs. This is > true on 1U and 2U systems -- I'm not sure about larger stuff. > > After all, what are Dell/IBM/HP-Compaq going to do for you, other than > replace the hardware? Nothing. They don't support your custom software and > configurations, just hardware. Yank the hard drives, RAID controller, > install in a spare system, and you're up and running again. Figure out what > went wrong on the old system later. If it's under warranty, get it RMAed at > your leisure. If it's not, you've got another two spare systems on the > shelf, waiting there 24x7 just for you. > > Once again, it's not for everyone. If you don't feel comfortable with it, > don't do it! It works for some businesses, not for others. It depends on > who is supporting your servers. If IBM supports your servers, get IBM > support. If you support your servers... then why are you paying them to do > nothing??? Don't pay for emotional support. > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 06:55:10PM -0400, Al Baker wrote: > >> ok - but, who do you call for HW problem ? HP has all levels of >> warranties all depending on how much $$ >> you want to spend. What do you do if you buy and install Supermicro ????? >> HP also has 24x7 support center , again not for free, what do you do >> with Supermicro ??? >> I am really interested because I hear a lot of folks putting * on them >> but I never have worked on them while I have put in bunch of HPs really >> big boxes.. >> Thx for sharing your experience >> >> Matthew Gibson wrote: >> >>> I've had good luck with these guys: >>> >>> http://rackmountsetc.com/ >>> >>> supermicro have never failed me yet. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Jesse Molina <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> If you want barebones where you add your own processor, RAM, hard >>> drives, and options, try SuperMicro brand servers. They are >>> thousands of dollars less than the "big" (fat) names like IBM and >>> HP/Compaq, but very good quality. >>> >>> I've built several clusters of computers with SuperMicro systems. >>> They are great if you want to do barebones, clusters, or other >>> special projects. >>> >>> It just takes a little more time to do the assembly work. >>> >>> Try newegg.com <http://newegg.com> for some sample pricing. >>> >>> >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
