Probably a whistle blower, disgruntled employee, or competitor. Thanks, Steve T
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Matt Florell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not sure who complains, but it has happened before. the first case was > in 2006 when Phase One Marketing who was fined by the FTC for > indirectly acquiring the FTC DNC list from another entity. > > MATT--- > > On 6/13/08, Steve Totaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I suppose if they are properly scrubbing (not the legal definition, >> but the practical definition of removing people that are on the DNC >> lists), then who is going to complain? >> >> Thanks, >> Steve T >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Matt Florell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > I am not suggesting that the USA's laws exist outside of the USA, I >> > can imagine the horrible problems that would cause in the rest of >> > world. I wanted to point out that if you are using this service and >> > doing business in the USA that you could face penalties for not >> > following the law. According to the FTC, both companies(the scrubber >> > and the client) are guilty of breaking the laws of the USA. >> > >> > If you are calling the USA and need to use this company's FTC DNC list >> > filtering services then you may have USA-based operations of some >> > kind. In such cases it is important to note that companies have been >> > fined millions of dollars and have been shut down in the USA for >> > violating these regulations. >> > >> > I am well aware of the fact that companies based outside of the USA >> > routinely call-blast the USA with auto-dialers that send out callerIDs >> > such as 1234567890 and do no filtering against the USA FTC DNC lists. >> > A large portion of these companies are doing lead-generation for >> > USA-based companies, and over the years a lot of those USA-based >> > companies have been shut down for the activities of their lead >> > suppliers. >> > >> > MATT--- >> > >> > On 6/13/08, Dean Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Yep it's funny how few people on this list realize that the usa's >> >> borders and laws stop 50 miles off the coast. >> >> >> >> It's also surprising how few Americans realize that a company >> >> incorporated internationally (Pakistan in this instance) even if owned >> >> as a subsidiary of a USA parent doesn't have to follow the laws of the >> >> USA but actually falls under the jurisdiction of the laws they are >> >> incorporated under. >> >> >> >> I'm not saying this is good or bad, 'm just saying that as 'asterisk' >> >> people we should be smart enough to play the laws that suit us to our >> >> advantage, if you think that the Global 1000 companies don't then you >> >> are kidding yourself. >> >> >> >> Besides we have the advantage in that almost everything we do can be >> >> virtual in most instances. >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Dean >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve >> >> Totaro >> >> Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 7:06 AM >> >> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion >> >> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer! >> >> >> >> My guess is that they are outside of the FTC's jurisdiction..... >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Steve T >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Matt Florell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> >> >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> > >> > asterisk-users mailing list >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > > _______________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > _______________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
