Hello Rodolfo, I see you have experience with Panasonic, and I have a new challenge of integrating Asterisk in an enterprice where they have a KX-TDE200 without the "VoIP card" so they can' t have voip with the pana-PBX, and that's why they want *, so do you have any advices for me :) ? I need to integrate asterisk and keep the panasonic :( because it is almos new.
Thanks a lot!!!! 2008/10/17 C F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are argueing with things like "I can do it with panasonic, but it's > > not documented anywhere", "documentation is a mess but not poor", "sorry > > for underestimate your abilities". "Sorry but I do [completely > > understanding Panasonic PBXs]". Not technical. Worst even: that's the > > propietary software culture. > > > > Many thanks for your advice, LED's issue was an imprtant feature to keep > > the eye on. I'll stick with asterisk, for many reasons *. > > > > Thanks again. Good luck. > > > > R > > > > * Only one (have more examples): even though I have old pana-PBXs, I > > bought a TDA100 ("new model" as provider offered). Has some SMDR bug, > > CERTIFIED tech tried to upgrade firmware twice, can not, ended > > programming it three times, costs us tens hours of service, until > > guarantee is lost, now works worst as initially: has noise on one line. > > Surely there is a fix (though not documented, as you wrote)... > > > > Both the fact tech couldn't update it and the noise indicate the tech > didn't do it right. There is specific well documented procedure how to > do it. The reset precess should take care of both problems. > > > ... and bug stills strong as ever. > > > > Am Freitag, den 17.10.2008, 00:57 -0400 schrieb C F: > >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Am Mittwoch, den 15.10.2008, 20:51 -0400 schrieb C F: > >> >> Being a Panasonic dealer and having more than 50 Asterisk system in > >> >> production, I can tell you that if this is your first Asterisk > >> >> project, then go with Panasonic, you'll safe yourself lots of > >> >> aggravation and have a happier customer. > >> > > >> > You are completely wrong! > >> > > >> > Last 4 years, I installed/programmed 6 Panasonic (KXTD1232, 3x TA308, > >> > TDA100, TEM824) in our offices. > >> > >> TD1232 has been discontinued for at least 5 years. Don't know about > >> the the TA308 since the last and only one I installed was in 1998, but > >> I have not seen them advertised in the last 5 years. Which makes me > >> think they are discontinued as well. > >> > >> > Until now, I don't completely understand > >> > >> Sorry but I do. > >> > >> > them. Their GUI software is really bad. The functions are awfully > >> > limited. Manuals are poor. Mailing lists with helpful people there is > >> > not. > >> > >> GUI on the TD is really really bad. Functions are not limited, like > >> you said: "I don't completely understand them". GUI on the TDA is nice > >> and organized. Documentation is a mess but not poor. The main reason > >> being it's translated from Japanise, and they don't explain the theory > >> just the steps. > >> Yes no mailing lists. > >> > >> > > >> > Less than a week ago (friday), bought 3FXS, 1FXO with SIP > >> > (sipura/linksys), and KNOW NOTHING ABOUT asterisk. Today, I emulated > >> > almost all features we use (account codes, DISA, own dial plans), and > I > >> > can really say: ASTERISK WORKS INCREDIBLE! > >> > > >> > I even programmed an AGI script, which injects a variable to > >> > extensions.conf; on the other hand, that means I can reboot a server > >> > from my cellphone, isn't that incredible? > >> > >> I can do that with Panasonic as well, no it's not documented anywhere > >> in Panasonic docs. > >> > >> > now, I dont' know how, but 99% I'm sure I can trigger a phonecall when > >> > one server is offline. Only with asterisk. I'm almost sure a Panasonic > >> > can't emulate this features. Maybe with some expensive software. > >> > > >> > Then, I'm going to suggest 30 Voip phones, 2 8xFXO digium. I made an > >> > informal presentation yesterday, the people were amused. Thanks the > >> > people (thanks, peru guys) which guided me. Good luck everybody, I'll > >> > keep asking on this list, sorry. > >> > > >> > No more panasonic for me :) > >> > > >> > Newbies, ask how to start. > >> > >> Congratulations and good for you. Sorry for underestimating your > >> abilities. I wish you good luck, and if you feel comfortable please go > >> ahead and use Asterisk. But if this is a type of customer that doesn't > >> understand that you are experimenting with them and is not willing to > >> work with you, then don't do it with THEM. > >> > >> > -- > >> > Rodolfo Alcazar > >> > Responsable red y datos > >> > > >> > Deutsche Gesellschaft für > >> > Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH > >> > > >> > Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y > >> > Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP > >> > Av. 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