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[[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob Pierce 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 5:36 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Appliance
> 
> I'm looking for some info on the Asterisk Appliance.
> 
> I understand it has a gui, but can I still do all the dialplan config
> that I'm used of doing by hand outside of the gui? If I really wanted
> to, could I even ignore that the device has a gui and do all my config
> in the files? I guess I'm just wondering if it will be as flexible as a
> 'vanilla' asterisk install from source on a linux system.
> 
> Also, from those who are using these devices, what has your experience
> been? Are they stable? Do they seem to have enough horsepower and
> storage space for an SMB with up to 50 phones? Some older specs stated
> they would be appropriate for businesses with 2-50 users, while the
> current spec on the Digium site states they are appropriate for 2-20
> users.

Sorry for the delay in responding -- I'm just now having time to catch up on a 
month of the list, but it doesn't appear anyone else has responded. 

We have an Asterisk Appliance in a remote office (and I have one at home) and 
it's a mistake we would not make again. Concept wise it's a nice idea, but 
using Asterisk built from source is so much easier, more flexible, and less 
stressful. I guess our biggest issue with the appliance isn't hardware but 
administrative: While I found no reference to it before we purchased the 
Appliances (maybe I didn't look hard enough, maybe it's not documented anywere 
that's readily findable) Digium doesn't support any confiuguration not 
generated using the GUI "wizard"... Digium doesn't support FTPing files onto or 
off of the appliance, Digium doesn't support... 

Stability wise I don't have any complaints, it's never crashed on us except 
when I tried FTPing config files off so I could edit them. We only have two 
full-time users at the remote office, and I have only me at home (6 total 
extentions at the office for visiting staff, 7 extensions at home). There is a 
wierd FXO caller ID issue that we're fighting on one of the POTS lines, but 
Digium essentially refused to support it because we aren't running anything 
close to what the GUI could build for us "automagically" (unified dialplan 
across three sites, either site can call out on the other site's POTS lines, 
call queuing that crosses sites, feature codes to force calls to extensions 
direct-to-voicemail (no ring ever) and ring-for-eternity (no voicemail ever, 
etc.) [in fairness it looks like its a CO issue because the problem follows the 
line, the other POTS lines don't exhibit the issue, though all lines work with 
a "standard" caller ID box]. 

I'm weary of making changes to that box because while you can edit config files 
through the GUI, if you aren't very careful it seems like parts of a context 
will rearange itself (e.g. part of extension "s" will end up in the middle of 
something completely different).

We tried to upgrade the firmware once and it screwed things up to the point 
where for a day the site had no telephone service (oh, suprise! If you have any 
custom stuff in extension.conf and upgrade the firmware it will spin off into 
an infinite loop orbit until you factory default the thing... and once we got 
control of the infinite loop issue we couldn't get the config that had been 
working just beautifully to work at all, so we punted and rolled back to the 
previous FW version) 

Basically, my experience with the appliance it it's a beautiful little box and 
if they'd just ditch the GUI and give a moderately user friendly commandline 
text editor I'd be on it in a second, but with the appliance in it's current 
state it took me less time to 

* Unbox a Dell PowerEdge 1950
* Install AEX804E card
* Rack a Dell PowerEdge 1950
* Install "server version" of Linux from Distro CD 
* Download Aserisk and Zaptel sources, compile, configure, and install
* Build Dialplan by hand from scratch
(and I think, not including labor costs this was also close to the same cost, 
if not cheaper than the appliance) 

Then the amount of time I've spent trying to get the Appliance to do what we 
want -- and what we want for the thing really isn't that complicated (really 
just "Take POTS lines in, handle local switching for a handful of extensions so 
that that traffic doesn't wind up on our WAN/VPN connecions, and act as a 
SSU"-- we aren't even doing queues on it!). 

Plus making changes to the Dell version of things is also quicker and less 
nerve wracking..

As you can probably tell I don't care much for the Appliance based on our 
understanding of what it was. On the other hand, though, if all you have is one 
site and just need a basic SOHO PBX it's a decent contender... the support more 
than anything is what's left a bad taste in my mouth.

These of course are just my opinions 
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