On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:56:52AM +0200, Olivier wrote:
Hi,

Does it make sense to use LXC as mean to quickly switch from one dahdi
version to another or shall other virtualization technologies be preferred ?

LXC is basically the same as OpenVZ and Linux-VServer (and probably like
Solaris Zones and FreeBSD Jails): The processes of the guest still run
inder the same host (specifically: share the same kernel).

That's the important bit: One Kernel - that means the version of dahdi you load is shared amongst all containers you use, so trying to get one container run with a different version is not possible.

LXC (or rather: cgroups) is now prt of mainline kernel. From palying
with it on Debian Squeeze, it feels still a bit immature (and even more
so: lacking documentation). But as the usage of cgroups grows in the
coming years (e.g.: in systemd), I would expect to see it more and more
common.

I've been using it for virtual servers for some time now - well, since late last year. Both for Asterisk as as general purpose virtual LAMP hosting. Documentation is an issue, and it's a bit of a steep learning curve and not everything that people post to the various other lists, etc. is relevant to what I want it for, so there's a little bit of "making it up as you go along" - at least for me, but I now have something that works well.

In my early experiments, I used an old 1.8Mhz Celeron as a test-bed - I installed 20 containers, each running asterisk and arranged one to call the next to call the next ... to call the first ... and when the last one got to a certian count it connected itself to MoH... I then got a SIP phone to call the first one...

Without doing anything clever, I got it to loop 3 times before it showed signs of stress... So so each asterisk only passing media for 3 calls, but that's effectively 60 calls all passing media between them - the kernel time was starting to get high at that point - I reckoned it was probably the network stack was topping out more than anything else. When I did this on production hardware (quad core, 3GHz cpus), that setup was barely noticable.

KVM, Xen, VMWare and the likes "emulate" a complete virtual machine. Not
just a set of processes. Specifically, your processes run on top of
their own kernel. This requires more resources, but provides better
isolation.

I briefly played with KVM, but you really need a CPUs that support a few extra instructions to make it more efficient - even then, it's not as efficient as LXC is, however it does have other benefits - differenet kernels, different modules, kill a kernel, you don't kill the host, etc. However for my needs, LXC is working very well.

Gordon

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