On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:47 AM, BJ Weschke <bwesc...@btwtech.com> wrote:
> On 10/22/14, 12:14 PM, Paul Albrecht wrote: >> On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Joshua Colp <jc...@digium.com> wrote: >> >>> Paul Albrecht wrote: >>>> Really? Shouldn’t something this major affecting the entire Asterisk >>>> community get discussed on the lists? Any idea what Leif is talking >>>> about when he says the community is in transition, moving from dial >>>> plan model to external control. >>> It was something Ben Klang brought up and wanted to talk about - it's >>> not something that has been decided 'nor does anyone know what the >>> future entails. Any further discussions will naturally occur on the >>> mailing list and in fact some things have explicit action items to bring >>> them up on here. >>> >> The suggestion that Asterisk should consider deprecating AMI/AGI is “crazy >> talk.” It doesn’t merit discussion and shouldn’t be on the agenda in the >> first place. It’s completely impractical and can never happen. Moreover, >> Leif seems to think we (the asterisk community) are in transition. What does >> that mean? Are we abandoning the dial plan? Seriously? That’s never gonna >> happen either. ARI isn’t easier to use than dial plan scripting. I guess one >> could hope that "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas”, but I don’t think >> the Asterisk community has that kind of luck. >> >> > > "It doesn't merit discussions and shouldn't be on the agenda in the > first place." Really? > > Paul, aside from the Digium team, everyone else that's there at DevCon > have spent outside funds to get there and I think the consortium is > pretty well able to discuss whatever they'd like regardless of your > dictator like statements which goes against everything that an open > sourced project/community is supposed to be. There have been years > where I'm able to attend DevCon and there have been other years, like > this one, where I'm not able to attend because of prior business > commitments. In the prior years where I haven't been able to attend, I > don't personally feel like anything major was implemented without first > being vetted with the list and community at large. I'm not really sure > why you perceive the whole AstriDevCon event to be some kind of > conspiracy theory against the community at large, but knowing both Josh, > Leif, and many other people in that room for some number of years now, I > can assure you that I've never seen anything other than 100% transparency. > > You've made more than clear in prior posts to this forum that you're > not really a fan of ARI. I think we all get it. There are other people > that are fans and, for them, they're in transition to using it in a more > mainstream fashion because it's able to do things for them that AMI and > AGI cannot. I personally still use AGI and AMI in many production > scenarios with Asterisk today and I'm only just thinking lately about > certain applications that I could transition to ARI. We cannot discount > that there's a very large cost for the developers, testers, and the > community at large to continue to keep AMI/AGI maintained and > functionally up to date with all the Asterisk changes along with ARI > given the way that AMI/AGI were originally implemented in the codebase. > For people that are absolutely hooked on still using AMI/AGI in the > longer term, perhaps a discussion could ensue at some point about a > bridge with AMI/AGI functionality being built off of ARI itself, or > maybe that's just crazy talk. I really don't know. The great thing about > Asterisk and the community around it is that if there's enough > participation and interest, anything can happen. What you’re discounting is the Asterisk community that have used and are using dial plans and AGI/AMI. If ARI can’t work in that environment, then ARI should be abandoned as simply unworkable. > > BJ > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-dev mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev -- _____________________________________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
