On 29 Jul 2004 at 12:04, Kanuri, Seshu wrote: > Benj, > > This is not mud throwing. This is constructive criticism for the > contributors to be more productive.
1. Don't post in html...I have to scroll three pages to the right just to read it. 2. Don't top post. > > Please remember that anything that is given here as "usable solution" > should not only be usable but also useful. Whereas Destar is not. It > just does not do anything. It has a totally blank vanilla interface to > it. 3. Judging from the screenshots (and assuming you are correct) the author has decided to develop a GUI before doing the back end coding. While this is not the direction I would choose, it is by all means a viable development option. > Remember that the issue here is "GUI Solution for Managing Asterisk". > Destar does not fall into that category and the code written in Python > just dont jell well with the Asterisk community, who are mostly > Non-Techie novices trying to understand what is good about Asterisk. 4. Remember that GUI stands for Graphical User Interface. This is obviously a GUI. Does it manage Asterisk? It looks like it's supposed to, whether or not the code has been developed for the back end? > I made these comments as I have spent some time trying to figure out > if Destar is really useful. 5. It's comments like these that stop people from releasing open source software. How much is he charging you for it? If I was him (and I hope he is slightly less hot headed than myself) I would have stopped developing the project and told you to....hrmmm public list.... 6. Re the comment about python: Even though I don't use python, I would say that the variation definitely does Jel (as you put it) with the asterisk community. I love it when someone develops code in one of my favourite language. 7. Re everyone being newbie's: Not everyone here is a newbie. Even if we were, it would be no excuse to not learn. Surely the process of learning is what turns one from n0Ob to 31337. Yes I understand that your average Jo user understands nothing about asterisk or linux or C or python etc, but in order to install asterisk, we've all had to at least have some interaction with Asterisk. 8. Re constructive critisism: The way this is usually done is to a) find something that you think would be better done another way, and b) if possible offer an option as to how it may be done in the future. This is all crap is not constructive critisism. Although saying you should do this in C (or whichever you'd prefer), this is not helpful constructive critisism as the developer has obviously developed thus far using other software. (i.e. if I said to you build me a house, and then during the bulding phase you said can you move it 10 metres to the right, this would be difficult and more so the more time has passed since the developer began). Sorry if this seems like a rant, but I've noticed a definate change in the way that the asterisk community is acting in the last two or three months, and it's not good. Have a happy day, Matt Riddell > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sunrise Ltd > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:56 AM To: astusr Subject: Re: > [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk GUIs at Astricon * REMINDER * > > > Kanuri, Seshu wrote: > > > You dont call this Destar or whatever > > a "GUI Solution for Asterisk", do you? > > Did we or did we not just have a longer discussion about > being nice to each other on this list after a reminder > from Mark? > > There are certainly things that can be improved with > Destar and I am sure Holger will appreciate any > constructive criticism. However, your comment looks more > like mud throwing to me, not so nice. > > rgds > benjk > -- > Sunrise Telephone Systems Ltd > 9F Shibuya Daikyo Bldg., 1-13-5 Shibuya, Shibuya-ku, Tokyo, Japan > _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
