Fair enough, The MItel is not the most expensive VOIP solution, but as you say - the reason Asterisk is so attractive is its effectively free and you are not locked to a single vendor or support channel.

I have only just started looking at Asterisk, I like it a lot, particularly its openness - the Mitel solution is an almost watertight black box :-(

I would still like to use the 5220's with asterisk (they cost about the same for us as the cisco 7960's) but are smaller, neater and look more like a phone (surprisingly!)

I will get a packet sniffer on one in a minute....

Sam

Colin Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/09/2004 15:24:50:

> Ditto that. On a Mitel box, A Service Contract Is Your Friend and a Good
> Interconnect Is Your Best Friend. Our 3300 was loosing conn w/ the phones and
> loosing sync with our PRI. Our interconnect blamed everything from the LAN to
> sunspots except the 3300. Because we had a service contract, I insisted that
> the NSU be replaced, which they did grudgingly and lo! problems ceased. ~3k
> calls / day from 80 users for 3 years so far - no problems.

>  
> FWIW, I'm just using QOS. We haven't had any issues with non - VLAN config.
> However, the reason I'm on this list in the first place is because we are
> planning to replace the 3300 with * :-) and the reason is simply because the
> Mitel box is too expensive $$. A 5020 costs us $1200 Cdn. My boss, who
> approved the system in the first place, likes to tease me and say: "Tell me
> again why we moved away from a Meridian One?"

>  
> On topic: The Ipera (the 3300's predecessor) supported SIP, as well as the
> new, I think it's called 3010 which is throttled to 25 users. Mitel made a
> stupid decision to drop SIP for the 3300 to try to lock in users with their
> own proporietary protocol which I have analyzed and it's part IP and part CDS
> (Cisco Discovery, like SNMP). Because the CDS part is Layer - 2 - ish it's
> hard to route; my BSD box routes it OK but a Seawall kind of config won't. Grrrr....

>
> -----Original Message-----

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 7:20 AM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Mitel 5010
>
> I am very surprised that you have had problems with a mitel 3300ICP. We have
> had one installed here for the past year or so and it is a very good system.
> We did suffer the occaisonal crash and then our system was wiped out by a
> lightning strike, we had a replacement controller in place and fully working
> within 3 hours. Since then we have had absolutely no crashes at all.

>
> You do need to setup the 3300ICP properly - incorrect configuration can cause
> you serious nightmares, but then it is a very flexible system. It also seems
> to be very particular about your network setup. Dont even think about trying
> to run it over a data network that does not have vlans or QOS.

>
> The early software versions were pretty poor, however version 4 is much better
> and we will soon be upgrading to version 5 so if you want to know how that
> fares let me know.

>
> Their teleworker solution is particularly impressive, although I wish they
> would release SIP support for their phones and controllers.

>
> Anyone know of a project to bring minet to asterisk?

>
> Sam

>
> Stephen Stull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/09/2004 13:33:59:

>
> > Is this the 3300IP system?  Those systems *can* be quite good, but

> > need to be up to the latest revision and require a bit of tuning.  I'd
> > be interested in your finds regardless and could probably experiment
> > with a 5005, 5010 or even the higher-end ones.
> >
> > I'll ask a former co-worker if I can borrow one for testing.
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