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----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: How far is IAX to be a Standard
>Try travelling in Africa, the Middle East and South Asia, where >everything is still mostly dialup and many of the phone wires >installed go back before the time when plastic was invented.
So SIP doesn't work on dialup? That's funny 'cause I'm using it like that...
That's not what I said. I said "Try travelling in Africa, the Middle East and South Asia" and that is precisely what I meant. I have been doing a lot of travelling in those places and in many situations and places the only thing that worked was IAX and ILBC.
You may want to search the archives of this list because this has been discussed many times before and I have explained my observations in quite some detail. You will also see that it won't make any sense for you to come back saying that I am too stupid to set up a SIP connection and that this would have to be the only reason why SIP didn't work while IAX did, because I had already explained in those earlier discussions that we had been competing against the big names in the industry, the cream of the cream, who came with their SIP gear and their SIP specialists, and they couldn't get VoIP to work where we could with IAX.
If you don't agree that having IAX ratified into a standard would be a help, well, that's where we differ.
I have been nagging Mark for some time about getting an IAX RFC initiative under way, and I have offered my help to Frank Miller drafting call flow charts and whatever other limited assistance I could be of in his aim to eventually evolve his IAX specification document to the point where it would be suitable for submission to the IETF. So, we are certainly not in disagreement about the benefit of such an initiative.
However, I disagree with the notion that only big industry player backed proposals pushed by plenty of lobbying have a chance of succeeding as standards. Many of the most important internet protocols have all been single inventor designs which became standard through grassroots adoption.
I certainly believe that IAX has gained enough momentum to become a major standard without the marketing and lobbying dollars that have by now been thrown behind SIP.
rgds benjk
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