people complaining about list etiquette...
On Tue, 2004-11-02 at 04:45, Patrick wrote: > Hi all, > > Following up on Steve Szmidt's post, have we come to a point where > something should be done about the deteriorating signal to noise ratio > on the asterisk-users list? > > Similar to other fast growing successful FOSS projects/communities, the > Asterisk community is no exception when it comes to growing pains. > Anyone who has been subscribed for quite some time surely has noticed: > > * the lazy top posting > * asking too simple/obvious questions that are found on voip-info.org, > the list archives, google and the docs that comes with the source > * asking totally unrelated questions (the Sparco example) > * asking why it doesn't work without giving any config info > * the GPL license, Windoze vs. Linux, "You are clueless! No you are!" > discussions/flame wars that go on and on and on > * the lack of proper trimming of posts > * the html email sent time after time in spite of requests to > turn it off > * the huge signatures that imho are a form of spam or just a waste of > bandwidth > > Some suggestions to hopefully improve things: > > 1) change the "Welcome to the asterisk-users list" email to contain: > > - before sending email to more than 8000 people, search voip-info.org, > the mailing list archives, google and the docs in the source > - do not top post > - add as much config info as possible > - trim long posts (especially unnecessary sigs) > - posts should be related to Asterisk > - be nice, polite, courteous. keep flames off list > - your sig should not be a billboard for your products/services (spam) > if you want to advertise your services, use asterisk-biz > - do not send html mail to the list. It will get rejected or bounced > or whatever (see item 3) > - do not use unnecessary capitals, exclamation marks and question > marks (don't be loud) > - do not mail questions to asterisk-dev that are not related to the > actual development of asterisk > - do not crosspost your question to asterisk-users and asterisk-dev > - do not resend your email after 4 hours because you have not > received an answer. Join #asterisk on Freenode irc if you require a > possibly speedier answer > > 2) post this info periodically to the list to remind people > > 3) strip all html or bounce it back to the sender telling them to send > normal email, not html email. Add the list's netiquette too, just to > make sure. Afaik mailman is capable of stripping html from email > > 4) ask the community to respond to people ignoring these reasonable > requests and gently point them in the right direction > > Feedback welcome. > > Regards, > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
