I agree with your comments about the KSU systems vs. * It just seems like every asian, latin american, and european electronics company has a "VOIP" product that they are selling now. Doesn't seem like we have seen any shakeout where a handful of companies emerge with good, solid products that perform day in and day out and provide a good value.
I guess where we are really looking is for a SIP that is equivalent to our M7310 Nortel phones so that we can get rid of the Meridian system and it's phones. What I don't want is two PBX/KSU systems for 10 employees. NO WAY. :) I just figured that mentioning the M3710's might help clear the clutter of LG,Epson, Uniden, Emerson, Hampton Bay (kidding), etc aka crap at the bottom. I did consider ATA devices, but they cost half as much as a decent SIP appears to and they don't provide all the PBX features on their front. There is nothing worse then trying to teach employees "secret" phone codes to get to stuff. My impression is that the market shapes into three bands of phones: 1- Economy phones aimed at providing VOIP dial-tone substitutes. Under $100 2- Business Phones Between $100 and $200 3- Premium Business Phones From $250 My focus is squarely on 2 and possibly 3 if the phones are decent enough. NOTE: PLEASE DO NOT CALL AND SOLICIT ME. A couple of people have already tried and it's a real abuse of the listserv. I already own Asterisk, some digium equipment, and a production class server for it and I don't want to buy a box or a service provider's product. We prefer to be our service provider. Brian Greul Texas Shirt Company www.txshirts.com 713-802-0369 / 713-861-6261 (fax) -----Original Message----- From: Jason Kawakami [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] RE: RE: IP Phone recommendations? -----Original Message----- Okay, I'm feeling a little stupid here.... But I'm gonna ask anyway. You mention support and firmware on the Ci$co phones. I understand the support item. I guess it makes sense that the phones have firmware. Does it have to be updated or changed or messed with that often? -because SIP UA's control the features (conference/transfer/redial etc) and each UA is under constant development to provide new features this will most likely be a requirement to keep current with the available features. If there is an article somewhere that covers this I'd love to read it. It seems like most of the VOIP marketing-speak is aimed at companies with mega$$$ who want to spend $500/head on it. We're a tad smaller and we have $ to spend not $$ or $$$ or $$$$. :) Worse yet, we need $ to go find and bring back it's friends. :) Anyhow, I haven't seen anything that really tackles moving from a CISC Nortel Meridian KSU to a IP based system. I'm guessing that this is Nortel's absolute worst nightmare. It seems like they trickle down the technology from the large switches to the micro PBX systems. - http://www.citel.com/index/index.asp I saw this yesterday and this may be an option for folks like you that have a big investment in handsets but want new features. I have no idea what one of these boxes costs but it looked interesting. Seems to be a play from Mitel to penetrate other mfg's installed bases with the 3300 ICP product. Remember that * is really a PBX where pretty much every system commercially available (other than class 5 equipment) is a hybrid of Key System technology and PBX functionality. Good Luck Jason Kawakami Open Telephony Labs, LLC Salt Lake City, UT _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
