Instead of realizing and admiting you are wrong you went ahead and added lies to you assumptions. If you would look thru the lists you will see that I keep giving code examples as well as solutions to problems. I know asterisk as well as I know artisoft (if not better). I sell both, for some clients artisoft is better yet for others * is. Yet the customers sometimes just want the cheaper solution. In our case I'm making money either way. The setup would either way (artisoft or *) be mine, the service contract will not be mine in either case, even if I do artisoft I'll have to get them a local service contract, I have however never had where someone asked for a local service contract for * and I couldn't take it because of the fact that I'm not local. As well that in this case it was a determining factor for my client in taking * or not.
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:01:16 -0500, Karl Brose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you , Bruno. > Your example is the proper way. > > The real circumstances are apparent now, but I could be wrong, but will > take that one > chance. The deception is quite clear, he is going to service this > customer anyhow, so the > distance wasn't the issue. The real issue is likely that he was trying > to sell the customer his > proprietary solution and was asked back, can't we run Asterisk, it's a > lot cheaper. In danger > of loosing his sale, he thought he can get one of the * people on the > list to do the expert work > work for him. > > Brian: Regarding slander... > Your comment is totally unqualified, I was obviously involved, and > there is nothing slanderous > about my comments. I you don't have anything to say of substance don't > say anything, there is > already enough garbage floating around. Are you the one to protect us > from slander? > > Finally, if deception and dishonesty are more noble than the exposure > thereof, I will take on > that challenge anytime. > People on this list generally either seek help in earnest, or provide it > in great amplitude in a > remarkably unselfish fashion. There is no reason to seek assistance in > disguise and convoluted intent. > The displayed attitude is exactly what ruined the trust and > relationships in the Usenet system (and Internet) > many, many years ago, too long ago for most here to remember, likely. I > suggest exposure of > unsuitable practices is almost all we can do to clean this business of > unsuitable participants. > This business is finally picking up steam and we don't need unqualified > people selling solutions > they can't support or implement properly or honestly. I would gladly > seek sincere help from > others, if I think I can't service a customer, or else rather decline > the opportunity. > > That said, I waisted enough of my time on this, which could have been > spent more constructively > with people that have real needs. > > Karl Brose > > > Bruno Hertz wrote: > > >On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 09:18 -0500, C F wrote: > > > > > >>As for the term contracted that I have been using, thats because I > >>HAVE BEEN CONTRACTED, I just don't have a commitment for asterisk, if > >>they don't take asterisk I am installing for them Artisoft > >>Tellevantage. I am a authorized reseller for Artisoft. Since Asterisk > >>is much cheaper they wanted to know if they can get support in the > >>local area. But in any case the contract is mine for the PBX. > >> > >> > > > >Good for you, although it makes your convoluted approach to this matter > >even more incomprehensible. Anyway, as I myself feel increasingly > >uncomfortable making this discussion in public I trust we can settle the > >whole matter as being an unfortunate misunderstanding. Please take my > >apologies for any wrong accusations, thank you for your well meaning and > >good luck for your business. > > > >Regards, Bruno. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Asterisk-Users mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > >To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
