Steven, I am starting to understand... you actually enjoy being a bully don't you :)
Damon > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Critchfield > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 9:52 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS cards > > On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 20:14 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Gosh, you sure are full of yourself. > > Looks like you didn't get enough caffeine into your body before > responding. Ohh well.... > > > You just shouldn't ASSume that everyone knows all of the abbreviations > > and when they ask you needn't be rude. Being condescending is the first > > sign that a consultant is shallow and not worth using. A *good* > > consultant will take the time to explain things and will never bash the > > situation that a customer or potential customer is in. > > Boy am I glad I am not a consultant and I don't have to deal with them > very often. And I hope you understand that if all the effort you can put > forth is to ask questions with no research behind the question, you > won't make it very far yourself. > > > Hardware and technology never become obsolete, they simply become > > outgrown. A customer's given choice in technology is typically made > > based on the best available balance of money, commitment, and need. > > Making high handed and unqualified statements is a waste of your time > > and mine. T-1's are rather unpleasant to move and for most small > > businesses are completely unnecessary, in my opinion. > > Funny. Obsolete is when the majority of people determine it would be > better to be impaled by a red hot poker than use the technology. Well > actually I think the thresh hold is quite a bit lower. How many serious > companies are still using PDP's in production? Know of any one still > seriously using 8088's on the desktop? > > T1's aren't anymore painful to move than several analog lines. Add to > that that you don't need a T1 to use T1 interfaces as I'll point out > below. > > > While you may have the money to burn by having a t-1 at home, most small > > business owners would rather use what is necessary as opposed to what is > > extravegant. And as you so nicely put in your other post, customers who > > come off the dime are a joy to work with. And I suspect most of them > > wouldn't tinker with * they would go straight to Cisco or Nortel, or a > > "brand" name that works turn key. > > Maybe you should read and fully comprehend before starting replies. It > is very helpful to do inline posting so you can see what it is your > responding to. It is possible you might have figured out how much you > missed if it was closer to what you where writing. Specifically I stated > that at home I had a T1 card and a channel bank. There was never a > mention of a T1 circuit. To finish connecting the dots for you, I did > VoIP to the office and had 24 extension capability and about 17 actual > extensions on my system at home. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steven Critchfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:59 PM > > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS cards > > > > You may need more coffee before responding to another message. > > > > On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 14:21 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Steven, > > > If we grant that you are correct and that Digium and friends are > > > making hobbyist products..... Then what are the "serious" installs > > > using? We're serious to the tune of 5 FXO ports and 3 FXS ports and I > > > > > want to make sure we don't waste time on flaky hardware. I figured > > > that as Digium built the hardware and wrote the original code they > > > probably know it better then anyone else. You just seem to know a lot > > > > > about the serious installs so I'm curious what you use and how many > > > lines you run with it. > > > > Digium makes T1 and E1 interfaces. Take a moment and read what I have > > quoted below and you will see I said serious installs would be using > > these T1 and E1 interfaces. > > > > If you truely wanted to know what I use and how much I have installed, > > you only need look at the archives. The company I work for has a T1 > > fully deployed right now and are expecting a second one any week now. We > > have extra capacity in hardware reserved for a customer of ours who has > > expressed interest in upgrading soon and needs more lines. > > > > I used to even have a T1 card and channel bank to run my home system > > till I grew bored of it and decided it was better to spend my time doing > > other things than managing the phones at home. Currently that system > > minus the server is with VCCH.com and they use it occasionally for > > demonstrations. > > > > > Btw, we are a textbook "small office" install according to the docs. > > > > And barely over the home use of a truely geeky person. I think you > > actually qualify as sub-"small office". > > > > > Also what the heck is FC? > > > > Fedora Core, Join that to the obvious question you will ask later, RH == > > Red Hat. Don't forget how to use google to look things up now. > > > > > > On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 14:07 -0600 Steven Critchfield wrote > > > And we come full circle to a comment I made before that TDM cards are > > > more for hobbyist than for real serious installs. A real install is > > > probably going to use a T1/E1 interface and bypasses all the troubles > > > listed in this thread. > > > > > > So far I don't trust that many of the people using TDM cards are the > > > ones who will tweak a system into a serious install. Look at previous > > > threads about system load spikes where we have to pull teeth to get > > > people to swap out of a FC kernel and into a generic kernel. > > -- > Steven Critchfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
