He has a similar story: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-January/082034.html
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:14:05 -0500, C F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Without going into detail of what the query is actualy called, when > the called switch make the query to find out the name, does it ask it > from the originating switch? or it askes it from the switch that is > responsibble for servicing the number? > The difference would be if, I have a PRI from provider A, and a number > from provider B, and thru provider A a make an outgoing call using the > callerID of provider B, who recieves the query? > In my experrience it doesn't matter, b/c most providers will anyhow > ignore the name you send and just send the number (or is it the called > switch that ignores it, and then makes the name query), and since I > don't know how a query like this works I don't know why my provider > doesn't answer with the name I supplied, if it is the one being asked, > I beleive it will not generate names on the fly even if it the one > being queried. But if the calling switch is the one being queried then > it would at least in theory be possible to answer what ever I wanted. > But if it askes the servicing switch (provider B) then it is not even > possible to change it (at least thru A). > > I used to work with an Avaya Difinity G3. We had PRI, which gave us > incoming CallerID (Name Only), and outgoing CallerID, since we had DID > we set up the Difinity to send the DID as CallerID, we however also > wanted that the name of the associated extension should come up, we > were then told by our provider that the name will always be the > billing name and there is nothing we can do. One day however a call > came in from another company using a PRI, and a Difinity and the name > of the remote extension came up, which leads me to believe that the > name is sent along on PRI (remember on our PRI we never got incoming > Name on CallerID). But it is ignored by the switches on the way, if > the called end is analog the switch does the query (igonring the name > that is sent, and sending the result of the query as the name), but if > the called end is PRI it does not do a query (I guess it relies on > your switch to do it), however it is sent along, on the PRI end your > switch (in my case the Difinity) just has to read it, since our switch > spoke the same language as the sending switch it received it and the > name showed up on CallerID (we were both using a Difinity). > Some clearfication please. > Thanks. > > > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:40:33 -0600, Tom Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alexander Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" > > <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:55 PM > > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Little confused about Caller ID > > > > > Thanks. I was always under the impression that they were all separate > > > tables in the same DB and that they were collectively called 'The > > > LIDB!!' > > > > > > For my and the others here could you describe the function of the > > > different DBs? > > > > > > I now understand the CNAME, I thought I knew the LIBD, I can guess on > > > the LNP, and 800, but what about the AIN??? > > > > > > > AIN = Advanced Intellignet Network. This is the area were a large number of > > new > > applications in the SS7 world are going. Followme calling, and some > > others. > > Some of the auto callback features, speed dial, etc. These application are > > stored > > in a database, and again require a TCAP query to make them work. > > > > There are other databases assoicated with Cellular that are completely > > different from the > > TDM world. > > > > > BTW. I was under the impression the fields had been added to the LIDB to > > > handle the Do Not Call list. Can anyone confirm or deny?? > > > > I have not seen any documentation on this. I think a large number of people > > get > > LIDB and the Line Record Set which is in the switch interchanged. The Line > > Record Set > > is the record in the switch which configures the 7 digit line. There are > > many flags in this record. > > You can block Caller ID, Caller Name, auto callback, block out going LD, > > etc. The LIBD record > > is in an SCP. The LIBD record and the Line Switch record are two different > > items. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom > > > Chandler > > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:54 PM > > > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Little confused about Caller ID > > > > > > TCAP is a transaction application. The CNAME, LIDB,800,.LNP and AIN > > > database COULD > > > be in the same SCP, but in most cases it is not. LIDB database are used > > > for > > > calling card, operator > > > services, etc. These are all seperate databases stored for use in an > > > SCP > > > connected to STP's. > > > So is there a relationship between CNAME and LIBD, no. > > > Tom C. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Alexander Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" > > > <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:44 PM > > > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Little confused about Caller ID > > > > > > > > > > Is the TCAP DB part of the LIDB collective (no Borg pun intended)?? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom > > > > Chandler > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:45 PM > > > > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; C F > > > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Little confused about Caller ID > > > > > > > > Caller Name is stored in a SCP. It is a TCAP transaction. The > > > > receiving > > > > switch via SS7 recieves > > > > the calling party number in the ISUP message of the SS7 datastream. > > > It > > > > is > > > > normally in the IAM mesasge. Then a TCAP CNAME query is launched from > > > > the > > > > called switch thru > > > > the STP's to a SCP which has the calling name database. The TCAP > > > query > > > > returns back to the launching > > > > switch the caller name. LIDB is for operator services etc. CNAME is a > > > > TCAP > > > > database lookup, much > > > > like 800 number translations. > > > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Alexander Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "C F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Asterisk Users Mailing List - > > > > Non-Commercial > > > > Discussion" <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:30 PM > > > > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Little confused about Caller ID > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK here it goes.. > > > > > > > > > > Caller ID is two parts or actually three: > > > > > > > > > > Part 1 Number only > > > > > Part 2 Number + Name > > > > > Part 3 Whole lotta stuff (also known as ADSI) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the US, I cannot speak for other countries. > > > > > > > > > > When party A places a call to Party B. Party A's Telco picks up the > > > > > number, either from a table on the switch or passed from the PRI > > > from > > > > > Party A. Then on the far side (Party B's Telco) the Telco does a > > > > lookup > > > > > in the LIDB (Line Information Data Base) and associates a name with > > > a > > > > > number. This information is then passed as Part II CLID. > > > > > > > > > > I have simplified the process, leaving out many processes along the > > > > way > > > > > but it should give some insight as to how the Name actually shows up > > > > on > > > > > the other end. > > > > > > > > > > Most Telcos do not receive the Name as part of the data in the call > > > > > through the tandems b/w Telcos, they opt rather to do the lookup in > > > > the > > > > > LIDB themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C F > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:16 PM > > > > > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > > > > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Little confused about Caller ID > > > > > > > > > > When calling to the PSTN (outside VOIP or *) then you will not be > > > able > > > > > to supply the name of callerID even if you have a PRI. The only > > > thing > > > > > you can provide is the number and the receiving switch of the call > > > is > > > > > the one responsibble for attaching a name to the phone number thru > > > > > SS7. If you have a SS7 switch then you could in theory attach the > > > name > > > > > (I have never tried it, but that's what I was told). > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:23:45 -0500 (EST), Samuel T. Cossette > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got the Caller ID name and number working with the > > > application > > > > > > SetCIDNumber and SetCIDName. > > > > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > exten => s,3,SetCIDNumber(4183289901) > > > > > > exten => s,4,SetCIDName(Frank Black) > > > > > > exten => s,5,Dial(IAX2/prov01/${DEST}) > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > You can also use SetCallerID(Frank Black <4183289901>), but no > > > > success > > > > > for > > > > > > me... > > > > > > > > > > > > bye, > > > > > > > > > > > > Samuel T. Cossette > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], 1.418.8o2.784o > > > > > > << Well, that's for me to know and you to find out. >> Jeffrey, > > > Blue > > > > > Velvet > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everybody, > > > > > > > Sure this has been covered a million times on wiki, but > > > > couldn't > > > > > find > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > exact answer to my question. I am using * to dial out to > > > peoples > > > > > phones > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > give them alerts of different things. Problem is that the only > > > > > Caller ID > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > can get working is the telephone number. I am unable to display > > > a > > > > > name > > > > > > > along with the number. Thinking maybe its the phone receiving > > > the > > > > > call, I > > > > > > > tried my cellphone and my house phone and I can only get the > > > > number > > > > > to > > > > > > > display. If I leave the number portion out, Caller ID shows > > > > > > > "Unavailable". > > > > > > > Is there a simple way to get a Caller name setup? I've tried > > > > > examples on > > > > > > > Wiki as well but I couldn't get them to work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***** extensions.conf ********* > > > > > > > [general] > > > > > > > static=yes > > > > > > > writeprotect=no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [globals] > > > > > > > CONSOLE=Console/dsp ; Console interface for demo > > > > > > > TRUNKMSD=1 ; MSD digits to strip (usually 1 or 0) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [sports] > > > > > > > exten => s,1,ResponseTimeout,5 > > > > > > > exten => s,2,Answer > > > > > > > exten => s,3,Wait(1) > > > > > > > exten => s,4,Playback(sports/gafanaSports) > > > > > > > exten => s,5,Goto(2000,2) > > > > > > > exten => 2000,1,wait(1) > > > > > > > exten => 2000,2,Background(sports/teams/theLosAngelesLakersU) > > > > > > > exten => t,1,Playback(goodbye) > > > > > > > exten => t,2,Hangup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******** sip.conf *********** > > > > > > > [general] > > > > > > > context=default > > > > > > > port=5060 > > > > > > > srvlookup=yes > > > > > > > allow=ulaw > > > > > > > register => [id]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > [gafana] > > > > > > > type=peer > > > > > > > secret=[secret] > > > > > > > username=[username] > > > > > > > host=[hostname] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******* test.call file ********** > > > > > > > Channel: SIP/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > CallerID: [My Number] > > > > > > > MaxRetries: 0 > > > > > > > RetryTime: 300 > > > > > > > WaitTime: 45 > > > > > > > Context: sports > > > > > > > Extension: s > > > > > > > Priority: 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do I need to add to be able to send a name as well and not > > > > just > > > > > a > > > > > > > number? 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