It is MORE than apparent that you do not want to help me. Fortunately, I am not asking for your help.
However, if you don't care to answer politely, then why answer at all? Treating people crappy over an email is stupid. Just ignore the noob and move on with your life if you don't want to answer. Regardless, you seriously need to come to terms with the fact that it WILL continue to happen. New users will always equal people without a clue. They will come here not knowing how to do anything or how to find anything. <IMPORTANT DISTINCTION COMING> Whether they stay and become users, contributors, and purchasers of service or equipment has a lot to do with how they are treated at the outset. <IMPORTANT DISTINCTION COMPLETE> If they do not KNOW that voip-info exists how are they supposed to look there? Because someone found the usergroup from Digium .com, they should know how to use Google to site:lists.digium.com? Or they should automatically know where the Wiki is? I recognize that there are links they could have followed but it is just "noobitis". They get overwhelmed or don't know the next move. Or maybe don't know the etiquite. If they are just drifting through and not destined to be users, they will go away. If they are destined to be users, we should shape them into good one. A good teacher would encourages them and move on. Not chastize them. Research is the issue? Then point them to where they should go and let them do it. I agree with your general feelings on when people come here looking for htings they should be able to get themselves. I just don't agree with how to handle it. For you, it would be better for everyone if you just deleted the email and ignored the person. You would be happy and the person who asked could get an answer from someone else. Then we can correct the person so they can be a GOOD submitter to the list. That way we all benefit. Cheers, Wiley -----Original Message----- From: C F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:57 PM To: Wiley Siler; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider? On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:34:04 -0700, Wiley Siler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why answer? because I don't want this to happen again. But I dont' care to help him/her or even you. If the answer is as close to someone as a single line in google, I don't understand why this is called giving a hand? this will just teach some ppl to be ever more lazy. > Why answer if you are bothered? Isn't that just burning more of those > electrons of yours? 8) Burning more electrons. Nope, maybe he/she and you will learn for next time, so I saved those electrons. Now don't ask me if I'm burning more electrons now. I dont' think so look above. > People get stuck on things and need a hand. Doesn't mean they are > lazy by default. If all they had to do is search for vonage on voip-info.org and there it is, then it does mean that they are lazy. > They just don't know better. They don't know better? I think they do. How did they get to this list then? > In this case, it is a good chance to direct him to other providers who > do what he wants. He doesn't want other providers he want vonage, and vonage does it. (you are also one of those lazy ones, you didn't even search it on voip-info.org). > That strengthens the providers, strengthens the market for voip, and > that will improve things for ALL voip users. I can't agree more with you, and thats exactly why vonage offers it. Hopefuly because vonage offers it, broadvoice will start offering it in his area soon. > Why ot just drop the hint for how the user can get things they want > and let them learn. That's exactly what I did. As well as asked that person to please search first. > Todays noob is tomorrows Asterisk contributor. > > Like mama said, if you don't have anything nice to say, you should not > say anything at all. I did, I tought him how to use google for a specific site (BTW, you can do the same thing from within voip-info.org, thats how their search tool works). > At least that is how I feel about noobs and silly questions. This has nothing to do with noobs and/or silly questions. This has to do with not doing any research but wanting others to do it for you. > > Cheers, > Wiley > _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
