I'm saying that as a long as long as Digium supports this "dinosaur technology in support of their community" "that" is exactly what the community will have, and nothing better, because "this" is the Digium supported community. It is really obvious to an unemotional objective user who has reviewed the archives, the search function, and has observed the "disorganized, helter-skelter, all over the map" discussions (ok, I guess, if you have lots of free time on your hands), poor text formatting messages (i.e. no way to indent code, code fragments, highlight, etc.) - this "helter-skelter community" has a solid a one-hour "post-to-message" lag time for recent subscribers and traffic-volume that is not possible to moderate to enforce simple social rules and professional conduct.
For example, vBulletin's (www.vbulletin.com/forum) entire business ecosystem is supported by very a very large community of very talented users and developers. Some of the top developers also support parallel ecosystems such as www.vbulletin.org/forum where customization is distinct from core services and basic user support. These people are very top technical people (not some lamers who can't use email as some recent foolish posters have demanded) and they certainly could not support such a complex and sophisticated user community if they used an antique email list server with a one hour post-to-message lag time. For fun, you might register with www.vbulletin.com/forum and suggest they convert their entire community to an SMTP email list server and see how many people agree with you (generic "you", not personal "you"). Please post the URL of the discussion where all the developers agree with "you" have much better vBulletin would be if they stopped building on-line communities and became a helter-skelter email-based ...... Mess! The productivity of www.vbulletin.com and www.vbulletin.org surpasses the productivity and efficiency of this list by orders of magnitude (hands down). Just look at their archives, their posts, their announces, bug tracks, security releases, commercial support, etc. an infinitum. Open your eyes (them from the excellent movie Vanilla Sky)....... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Ivar Helbekkmo Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:55 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Are there online forums instead of this First, Tim Bass says: > I have many years of experience in both email lists and on line forums > and I can tell you without a doubt that on-line forums are far > superior to email lists. There is no comparison. ...and then he says: > There are many on-line forums related to asterisk, including > www.asteriskforum.com ... the problems is that as long as Digium > supports this type of "dinosaur era" list, the other communties will > not grow. So, Tim, you're really saying that as long as a completely inferior, stupid, non-useful, old-fashioned alternative is permitted to exist, people will choose that over the good alternatives, thus trapping everybody into something that doesn't work? Why? -tih -- Don't ascribe to stupidity what can be adequately explained by ignorance. _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
