Rich Adamson wrote:

Anyone have a practical experience/knowledge relative to why a 5ESS central office switch would require a "w" in the Dial statement to handle analog pstn-fxo calls? I fully understand what "w" is doing, just trying to better understand why a 5ESS doesn't accept dtmf a little quicker then it does. Does
that switch make use of dtmf receiver cards (or something) that
might involve a delay in attaching it to an analog pstn line?

Rich


It depends, and I am not familar with specifics of the 5ESS, but.....

Older digital exchanges generally used shared resources for DTMF detection. Later ones tend to use something in the line card chip set for DTMF detection. When I say older and newer I mean of old or new manufacture rather than model. Exchanges change enormously in their implementation during the overall design's lifetime.

Usually when you pick up a phone there will be a short delay before dialtone appears. Generally it is only 100-200ms, so you don't really notice it. In general, the DTMF detector will not be functioning until that tone is playing. However, even if the tone appeared in the first millisecond, the DTMF receiver tends to be paralysed for a little while by the loop current sloshing around and settling down. 100-200ms should see that fairly well settled. So, one way or another you need at least 100-200ms before the DTMF receiver can start detecting reliably. If the dial tone is a bit delayed it can be longer.

Most modern modems explicitly listen for dialtone before dialing. Older ones don't, but delay their dialing for a second or so after appling the loop.

I was aware of that, but more interested in specifics involving the
5ESS since it has been involved in two cases now that need the "w", and
I'm not familiar with internal design of the 5ESS.
What I described *will* be like the internals o a 5ESS. Either that or a 5ESS is different from every other exchange of its generation. If you are on an old one, and DTMF is a shared resource, there may be occasional longish delays before DTMF is accepted. That is probably what people have experienced.

Regards,
Steve


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