Mike, The problem with AMP is that it doesn't seem to be very modular. Adding functionality to it is prohibitively complex. I have been taking a look at DeStar. It's pretty raw still, but it has modularity as one of its goals, which makes a lot of sense to me. I have not worked with it enough to form an opinion on it, but it seems a lot more lightweight. Your idea of an off-system configurator is very interesting. In a server-based platform, that might also allow the possibility of managing multiple sites and customers from a central location. Hmmm . . . Jim.
_____ From: Mike Ashton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 1, 2006 7:14 AM To: Jim Van Meggelen Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] I'd like to start a holy war, please Jim, I can understand your point of view, and when it comes to optimizing * for a specialized task, can fully concur. But I'll be my money that *'s future is more then just that. If we want a wide scaled adoption of * then a GUI is mandatory. How many large scale PBX's are there out there? Versus how many smaller PBX's plus key systems and then the SoHo market? To get * easily into the hands of these people, some sort of GUI is going to be required. AMP is a pretty good stab at it. Personally I can do 90% of what I need through it. Sure there are things you can't do through it but that's ok, then you have the ability to go under the covers and tinker with it. Jim, when you talk about bloat, I don't think AMP adds much in the way of bloat. It's a 3.4Mb tar. It doesn't use Xserver which would be BAD. It's using resources (httpd, mySQL) that pretty much there for reporting and CDR. I've given this some thought and I believe there is a better solution which would satisfy both. That would be to have a separate configuration manager (say like FWBuilder), that ran on say your laptop. This would do a few things, remove the bloat of a GUI ( which is minimal ) but most importantly give you an automatic backup of your configuration. This app would connect to the * box, find the installed configuration, suck it out, and then allow you to play with it and push it back up. I imagine the app to allow you to keep multiple versions, so you can tinker on mods, push them up and test. If it fails, just push up the last stable and your back and running. Just my blurry morning thoughts. Mike Jim Van Meggelen wrote: Folks, I am not a huge fan of using a GUI to configure Asterisk, simply because I feel it adds bloat to the system and limits choice. Having said that, it would sometimes be nice to offer a simple interface that would allow chinging user names, mailbox info, DIDs and so forth. So, what I'd like to ask is for people's opinions on a nice, simple, lightweight front end for handling some of the more mundane bits of configuration. AMP/[EMAIL PROTECTED] is certainly a worthy effort, but far too much, to my way of thinking. Thoughts? Opinions? Experiences? Obliged. Jim. -- Jim Van Meggelen HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] HYPERLINK "http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2177"http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2177 "A child is the ultimate startup, and I have three. This makes me rich." Guy Kawasaki -- -- Mike Ashton Quality Track Intl Ph: 647-722-2092 x 251 Cell: 416-527-4995 Fax: 416-352-6043 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.25/247 - Release Date: 31/01/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.25/247 - Release Date: 31/01/2006
