Hello Ian!

You know I agree with all that you are saying.   The issues I have faced, as 
you have pointed out -- does not exist if two clients have g729 enabled.   
However I needed some protection from the Danes so I had to pay the tax ;)

The g729 truly does not require a license strictly in pass-through mode...  
that is...  Asterisk is merely acting as the bridge between two g729 based 
clients.   There is no transcoding at that moment.  This is true.

Unfortunately the situation I am cornered into - is terminating to overseas 
destinations.  MOST of the telcos overseas...  at least all the several dozen 
engineers I spoke with unfortunately, do not know "Asterisk" and its benefits.  
 They are not governed, nor those countries enforce piracy etc...  so they are 
not as enthusiastic as we are here in this part of the world, about Open Source.

However those telco engineers - have been BRAIN WASHED by proprietary hardware 
manufacturers.  Sweet deals, free flights, conferences, sponsorships etc...  
have made some of those telcos PRO Cisco...  plus those telco engineers do not 
care because the money for the telco implementation is actually government 
funded.

So coming back to getting cornered - a LOT of my SIP user base does not have 
G729 in their phones.  Few of my carriers who exclusively provide me US DIDs 
are pro-Asterisk based and do not terminate my inbound US calls to G729.   Adds 
to this another technical complication is that I cannot simply "pass-thru", 
because I am running calling card apps.   So if the calls are being originated 
in G729 from one of the DIDs, my * has to be able to talk G729.  

One more complication ...  and this is political  -- the TOS of one of my Tier 
1 carrier is to use G729.  But I really do hope and anticipate that all this 
will change, in the near future and we will have MORE choices than G729 between 
carrier interconnectivity.    Asterisk is changing the way Telecoms are doing 
business.  I think MORE of us using Asterisk will eventually harbour open 
source codecs and O.S.Codecs will become widely accepted in the industry.  All 
it will take is just ONE major telco to start using O.S.Codecs and the rest 
will follow.  Now that's my 2 cents :).

Cheers!



----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ian Service 
  To: Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast 
  Cc: TAUG 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Your opinion on G729


  I have found that the g729 implementation on asterisk isn't as fantastic as I 
would have hoped.  It works, it saves you bandwidth, but I find that if you're 
talking to your asterisk box or transcoding the call quality doesn't compare to 
talking between two quality g729 enabled devices. 

  If asterisk doesn't put its foot in the door, the quality of the call is 
better overall.  That's the main result I got from my testing, but I wasn't 
using Zap hardware so maybe if you're using a PRI card, you'll have different 
results. 

  Another thing to note, if you're making a call through an asterisk box, once 
the call has gone through, your license won't be occupied, so if you're dealing 
with routing between endpoints, you technically shouldn't be using up any 
licenses for those calls.  Some of my testing ended up picking the wrong codec 
for whatever reason so my box was transcoding and having the license made that 
work as opposed to not. 

  - Ian

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