Not even mistakes, sometimes things just don't work, it's people ingenuity 
I'm interested in. You're right though, I think most of us are almost beyond 
the how to's , now for the dirt. Frankly I'd rather learn from other peoples 
trials and tribulations than experience them first hand, Mark.
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Mark I agree with you on this, it sounds like a very good topic, a day to 
learn
from our mistakes. Who here has made some serious mistakes who would
like to talk?

I think coming with a set of Asterisk Anti-Recipes is probably even more 
useful
at this point with so much info out there than talking about more how to's.

On 5/29/06, Mark Palser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think you hit the nail on the head there, a lot of the problems are pure
> ignorance, but can we really be blamed, as there is little to no
> documentation and what tidbits you can find make huge assumptions of their
> own. I think as a group we have such a wealth of experience, form the
> smallest annoyance to major obstacles overcome and some real characters in
> our midst, it would make for an interesting meeting, Mark.
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> On Monday 29 May 2006 16:10, Mark Palser wrote:
> > Not wanting to put Asterisk in a bad light, but this technology is still
> > so
> > new and raw, I think we all have some stories where things didn't quite 
> > go
> > as planned. I really think it would benefit us all if one meeting could 
> > be
> > put aside to share some of these "experiences", we could then discuss 
> > what
> > went wrong and possible solutions, Mark.
>
> I am willing to bet that almost all of them will be rooted in poor
> assumptions
> or basic lack of knowledge about this new technology, including:
>
> 1) business lines from a VOIP provider that didn't work
> a) because we assumed that the internet was able to provide QoS
> b) because we assumed that the provider'd never go tits-up
>
> 2) runaway costs
> a) because we didn't understand the nature of computer telephony
> b) because we learned the hard way about echo cancellation
> c) because legacy vendors have DECADES of experience in customer lock-in
>
> 3) lack of features
> a) because we assumed Asterisk had feature 'x'
> b) because feature 'x' seems simple in theory
>
> I have personally been bitten by #2 and #3.  Anyone else?  :-)
>
> -A.
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