That' great Dave. Thanks.  I had no idea they were charging as much as an 
Aheeva seat.  It's also great to know what the maintenance runs.  Now if I 
just knew what to charge for installation....There are quite a few canned 
Asterisk PBX solutions out there.  I don't want the install charge to be too 
high either.  Me thinks I might keep that low, say $1500 for the PBX and 10 
phones.  I'm interested in the experience also.  

Peter M.

> I don't know about a full side by side comparison but I think the
> disparity is so huge, you can make your case on just a few items.
> 
> Assume that you spent the same money on the main system hardware,
> which you wouldn't because the T1 cards alone cost 4x as much, but
> assume you used top of the line server hardware etc and spent even
> money on the core system hardware.   Now Nortel can't say "ya, well
> that system runs on a little PC and we're selling 5 nines hardware"
> 
> I think you could probably save $50 or more per seat on phones just
> because you've got options.  You could buy an Aastra or another
> enterprise grade phone for way less than you'd pay Nortel for one of
> their 6 button display phones.
> 
> Now consider consider licensing.  Off the top of my head, I think I
> remember a customer spending about $20k on either 25 or 50 Symposium
> ACD licenses (I can't remember the quantity, I know they wanted 20 but
> they had to purchase some minimum).  Even if you take it at the low
> end, that's $500/seat.  As a general rule, licensing (RTUs in the
> Avaya world) are about dollar for dollar with system hardware in a
> call centre.  Call centres are obviously on the higher end of the
> features scale, we purchase all kinds of things that the average
> business wouldn't use but that come free or cheap with Asterisk.
> Compare: for $500, Nortel gives you one ACD seat and Aheeva (for
> instance) would give you a seat that does ACD, Predictive, unlimited
> supervisors, IVR, reporting, list management and the whole thing.
> 
> Then look at a maintentance contract for the equipment.  For a 100
> seat M1 Opt 11 running older software, it cost my client between 6 and
> 12 thousand/year depending on the provider.  Ask yourself if that's
> something you could provide for equal or less money.  Note, that's not
> a support contract for MAC requests, just for emergency hardware
> replacement and installation.  "I want my voicemail password reset" is
> still a $100+ billable call.
> 
> It's not a full analysis but I think the comparison falls apart pretty
> quickly, especially in a call centre where added features are being
> purchased.
> 
> Hope it helps,
> Dave

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Peter MacFarlane, ACP
Network Administration &  Programming     
Target Call Center/ Message Centre P.E.I.  
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