OK, I'm kinda glad I wasn't too quick on the response here, as I was going
to recommend the opposite, based on my (limited) experience.  Basically,
I've had no problems with a single drop environment when using Cisco
hardware to provide a voice VLAN.

Reza, you say there is no doubt that two is better, but you are advocating
an additional $5k for a second switch, as well as the wiring.  I'm sure you
can back up your statement, but I'd love to hear it.

Thanks and regards,
Dave.

On 5/4/07, Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello Marc:

What I have seen over the last 15+ years, I would 100% agree & encourage
to
have double drops per desk/workstation, regardless of using VOIP on the
same
or separate network.

From the information you have provided, I am assuming the office branch
will
have a minimum of 10 employees, and for that reason it is NO DOUBT, better
and smart thing to drop in the extra drops, vs., having to disrupt
productivity at a later date to get the cable guy to fish in the extra
drops
of RJ45 cable.

Your LAN wiring guy is being honest, pragmatic, and no doubt he wants to
make some extra money.  However it is worth EVERY penny if you ask me.
However on the event you want to RUN, call me and I'll pick up the pieces
after you ! :).

Good luck and hope this helps!

Reza.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Carrafiello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <asterisk@uc.org>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Separate Network for Asterisk?


>
> Oops.  I missed saying that concurrent connections for the PSTN will
> probably be from 5 to 10 to begin, eventually hitting 15 to 18.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marc Carrafiello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:02 PM
>> To: asterisk@uc.org
>> Subject: [on-asterisk] Separate Network for Asterisk?
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just got confronted by my LAN wiring guy about whether or
>> not I wanted
>> double the LAN drops in a new wing that's getting an infusion
>> of staff and
>> my first Asterisk install.  He said that he's still doing a lot of
>> double-wiring for companies, where they run the IP-PBX on a
>> separate network
>> and thus require twice the amount of LAN drops.  He's even
>> been back to
>> companies to add more drops to enable this after the fact.
>>
>> I actually didn't do a lot of research on this, am I setting
>> myself up for
>> trouble by attempting to stick my IP-PBX onto my existing
>> network?  When I'm
>> done, I'll be running:
>>
>> Asterisk 1.4.x with a Sangoma A101D T1 card on a fully loaded
>> Bell PRI.
>> Concurrent PSTN connections will probably
>> 35 (or so) Linksys SPA942's and 3 (or so) ATAs for Conference Phones.
>> In most circumstances, a user's desktop will be plugged into
>> the switch of
>> the Linksys SPA942 phone.
>> (2) Catalyst 3524's with PoE to enable the phones to not use
>> AC Adapters.
>> No QoS implemented.
>>
>> When done, our main office will have around 40 workstations
>> and 30 phones on
>> 1 LAN.  With a fully switched network that isn't heavy on
>> printing or file
>> server usage, I was hoping I'm not insane.  Am I insane?
>> Should I segregate
>> the networks?  Implement QoS?  Run away very quickly?
>>
>>
>> -Marc
>>
>>
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