Hello Philip and everyone,

        This thread interests me, since, just over a month ago, I terminated my 
relationship with Bell when we relocated.

        Question is: How secure is, or how can one make voip secure? i.e. Is 
Telephone Banking vulnerable over voip?

        For our residential phone we are now using acanac and lesnet over aDSL 
with dry-loop, asterisk 1.4.11 on my linux box here at home with a couple of 
Aastra SIP phones and  a Linksys 3102 to the analog phones in the  house.

        Cost is much lower than Bell's minimal service and we now have all the 
bells and whistles that Bell charges an arm and a leg for, at no extra.

        I could go on about Bell's bumbling monopolistic methods, like repeated 
phone calls to try to convince me to come back to Bell Sympatico for adsl, 
billing me for a month after the service was terminated, when I call them to 
try to straighten it out I get someone in India who can hardly speak English 
who tells me that I have Bell Expressview on my account and that the account 
was never terminated/settled... I tell them there is no Expressview on the 
account and the account was terminated when I left that address... 20 minutes 
of elevator music later I get dead air... (Boy am I glad I no longer have any 
affiliation with Bell!!!)

        Sorry about that rant...

        Question, if you've read this far, is related to the comments below 
about security on a voip call:

Philip Mullis wrote:
> Anyone with enough skills can listen to your calls on the rogers 
> network, but that would imply they also have access to the switching 
> fabric in which your calls go through., also if you want to be super 
> secure, get a voip provider that does ipsec connections from you to them 
> ,this will ensure very high security.

        Not using Rogers, how secure are calls using adsl/asterisk to a itsp 
like acanac or lesnet? Everytime I think I'm getting a handle on 
networking/routing/dns/traffic-shaping/etc something new turns up. Like ipsec. 
How do I determine if, or if not, ipsec is being used? Can I set it up on my 
end unilaterally? or must it be a provision from the itsp?

> Bell copper... mmmmm what can i say here... anyone with a 3$ phone from 
> wallmart, plyers and aligator clips can listen in on your call :/

        True, but he'd have to be outside  my house or on a pole somewhere, 
right?

        With IP isn't it possible for anyone on the internet, savvy enough to 
do it, to intercept packets and monitor calls/data transmissions from the 
comfort of his living room? Unless we are using some kind of security or 
tunneling protocol, or maybe IPSEC?

        What would be the equivalent of an "ssh" data connection in the voip 
world? What is the best/easiest/cheapest way to ensure security?


        --terry

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