Hey Mike,

Thanks for the thorough explanation of all the stuff you've done. No wonder
DTMF is such a royal pain.

Those tips should come in handy.

Jim

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Mike Ashton wrote:
> Ian,
> 
> We've had issues with this for years. We too have to use a
> lot of DTMF, for automatically transversing remote IVR's.
> We've never had 100% success. But we do pretty good now.
> There are multiple variables at play here.
> 
> First there is the device ( ATA / Phone ) having it set to
> rfc2833 can mean trouble, what you may want to do is use
> wireshark to see how the device is sending it's RTP EV
> packets. Almost every device I have sends them differently,
> both in numbers and the values in the ascending packets.
> You'd think that when you hit the digit 2 on your phone it
> would send one packet saying you hit the two.Not so! The
> device will send a stream of packets depending on how quickly
> you hit the button, and typically it will send a mininum of 3
> or 4 with a very quick touch. Each of these packets will have
> a value for the key you hit and then a duration value, which
> will ascend as you hold it down ( or you'd think so ). I have
> some sipura 2002's and pap2's which send very strange
> packets, not ascending in values consistently, with like 3
> packets of the same duration, where as my polycoms will send
> a consistent pattern with a consistent ascending value in the
> duration. 
> 
> Second, asterisk's interpretation, conversion doesn't seem to
> be consistent when converting rfc2833 to inband.
> 
> Third is the interconnects of your A-Z termination ( in your
> case this may not be an issue ) where one provider when
> handing off the DTMF isn't configured properly with the end
> termination point. 
> 
> The way we got this to improve using asterisk was to set the
> dialing devices to inband, tell asterisk in sip.conf that
> dtmfmode=auto and set the trunk to dtmfmode=inband.
> 
> We still have issues with some destinations (overseas) due to
> the carriers using compression, so for these destinations we
> have set up a secondary trunk with a different DTMF mode to
> utilize rfc2833, relying on asterisk to convert them.
> 
> I know in the past there has been issues with asterisk's
> handling of dtmf, and we've not upgraded to the latest to see
> if this will help with the issue. We're also setting up a
> test system using freeswitch to see how it handles things.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> Ian Darwin wrote:
> 
>       Part N of my continuing saga.
> 
>       A few months back I wrote of my problems getting
> dialing working with an ATA. Two ATAs later, I have given up
> and replaced all the hardware. It is now a standard PC
> (Celeron 1.2GHz) running "Asterisk Now" 1.0.2 with a cloned
> TDM410 (1 FXO) PCI card talking to my analog phone line, and
> various (SIP and Unistim) phones inside.
> 
>       Part of the complexity was and still is that we have an
> ALDS (Alt. L.D. service) that we activate by dialing 10
> digits, waiting for dialtone, and dialing the actual 10-digit number.
> 
>       There is some progress. I can fairly reliably have
> Asterisk dial numbers
>       both locally and over the ALDS. Incoming calls still
> work; this has never been the problem.
> 
>       But everything involving dialing from the phones while
> connected is unreliable. E.g., dealing with IVR-based
> voicemail, scheduling, etc.
> 
>       The setup, now, is
> 
>       Analog ---- TDM400 FXO -- Asterisk -- internal phones
> 
>       Most of the phones are on a full-duplex switch, because
> that is providing POE for several of the phones.
> 
>       Here is part of the sip.conf for one of the SIP phones:
> 
>       [general]
>       realm=XXX
>       disallow=all
>       allow=ulaw
>       localnet=192.168.1.0/24
> 
>       ; Grandstream BT100 phone
>       [31]
>       type=friend
>       secret=XXX
>       context=internal
>       nat=no
>       host=dynamic
>       canreinvite=no
>       qualify=yes
>       mailbox=20
>       dtmfmode=rfc2833
> 
>       The GS phone has these settings:
> 
>       Send DTMF:         in-audio    X  via RTP (RFC2833)  via SIP INFO
>       DTMF Payload Type: 101  (that was the factory default)
> 
>       -------------------------
> 
>       Here is the zapata.conf:
> 
>       [trunkgroups]
> 
>       [channels]
> 
>       ; default
>       ; usecallerid=yes
>       ; hidecallerid=no
>       ; callwaiting=no
>       ; threewaycalling=yes
>       ; transfer=yes
>       ; echocancel=yes
>       ; echotraining=yes
> 
>       ; increased, to let sending work.
>       toneduration=300
> 
>       ; last resort
>       relaxdtmf=yes
> 
>       ; define channels
>       context=incoming
> 
>       ---------------------------------
> 
>       Unistim.conf isn't shown but it has no settings related
> to DTMF;
>       these phones always communicate over a local LAN and
> always send DTMF out of band (according to chan_unistim anyway)
> 
>       ---------------------------------
> 
>       And here's the local and ALDS dialing macros:
> 
>       PSTN_DIALER=Zap/1
> 
>       [macro-dial-outbound-local]
>       exten => s,1,SetCallerID("Darwin" <905-XXX-XXXX>)
>       exten => s,n,Dial(${PSTN_DIALER}/${ARG1},20)
>       exten => s,n,GotoIf($["${DIALSTATUS}" = "BUSY"]?busy:unavail)
>       exten => s,n(unavail),Congestion()
>       exten => s,n,Hangup()
>       exten => s,n(busy),Congestion()
>       exten => s,n,Hangup()
> 
>       [macro-dial-outbound-worldline]
>       ;exten =>
> s,1,Dial(${PSTN_DIALER}/${WORLDLINE_ACCESS},10,D(wwwww${ARG1}))
> exten => s,1,Dial(${PSTN_DIALER}/${WORLDLINE_ACCESS}wwwwww${ARG1}))
>       exten => s,n,GotoIf($["${DIALSTATUS}" = "BUSY"],busy)
>       exten => s,n(busy),Congestion()
>       exten => s,n,Hangup()
>       ---------------------------------------
> 
>       Summary: dialing via either of these macros works, but
> anytime we send DTMF from any keypad, it's unreliable.
> Dialing "9" by itself, for example, dials Worldline's number,
> where sending 10 digits should work.
>       I wonder if this is related to why the first attempt at
> dial-outbound-worldline didn't work?
> 
>       Using an analog phone on the same phone line works 100%, btw.
> 
>       Thoughts? Further information needed?
> 
>       Many thanks if you can help.
> 
> 
> 
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