Duane at e164 dot org wrote:
Michael Cottenden wrote:
I have a first gen iPhone that is hacked/jailbroken and one of the
applications I am most interested in is a true SIP client. Unfortunately, as
of yet none exists, although the Siphon project looks promising, but it
doesn't yet support iPhone 2.x OS.

I have tried Fring but not Truephone, as Truephone does require you to use
their services. At least Fring will let you connect to a SIP provider of
your choice, but it still uses the Fring servers to make the connection. My
experience making calls via Fring over my home WiFi connection have not been
great. Call quality has not been good enough that I would consider using it
to place a "real" call. But, I did not have any problems with setup and the
call did work. I was using a SIP account from my provider, not on my own
Asterisk box.

And people mocked me for not wanting an iPhone, actually I have no idea
why people would actually want an iPhone considering how limited they
are, you can't just run any software you want, the browser is annoying
to dev for esp with streaming media and other aspects, and then of
course is the constant tunnel back to apple. I still can't work out why
people pay for the privilege of getting that.
You've hit the nail on the head. Owning any Apple product is a "privilege". I like my iPod because it fools me into thinking I am cool. For my smart phone, I wanted to have a sense that there would be a non-draconian development environment, so cool was out.

I get why people love the iPhone, though. Apple really gets the whole idea of a user interface. My E71 runs Symbian. It does the job I need it to (and I love it), but yuck. Take all the worst of windows, and all the worst of X, and you've got Symbian.

Jim

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