Hi Darrick

Point taken. In fact, our firewall support contractor has pushed for us to
take such a third-party facility. I've always knocked it back on the grounds
that we have the tools on-site to deal with it, and do not want to take on
an additional charge. If, however, we are looking to ditch the Smoothwall,
making a saving on support there, then you are right that this might be
worth consideration.

Whether this approach would save much bandwidth is moot. The Smoothwall
operates at the SMTP level only, checking RBL and greylisting only on the
basis of the SMTP headers. It is therefore only these spam headers which
take up our bandwidth, not the whole emails.

Anyway, thanks for the help

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Darrick Hartman [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 04 April 2012 20:00
To: 'AstLinux Users Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] Incoming mail/spam

Tom,

I'm not aware of a good way to do this in iptables.  It's really needs to be
done by an SMTP service.  Usually systems like this are fronted by a
mechanism like amavisd that intercepts the smtp traffic, filters it through
various mechanisms (spamassassin et al) and finally hands it over to the
real SMTP server.  The load on some of those mechanisms can be pretty high
and very susceptible to attacks.  

You might consider one of two things: 

1). Use a 3rd party filtering service and only accept SMTP traffic from
their IP addresses (this usually gives you some buffering as well if you
have an internet connection that goes down).  Most are reasonably priced,
typically a couple of $$ per mailbox.

2). Use a more full-featured firewall such as an Astaro gateway.  These
things are slick, but definitely cost more than free.

I don't see us adding this as a feature in AstLinux.

Darrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Chadwin [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:28 AM
To: 'AstLinux Users Mailing List'
Subject: [Astlinux-users] Incoming mail/spam

Hello all

As some of you might have gathered, I'm trying to find out whether we can
replace our firewalls with AstLinux. Most features we need probably are
present in Astlinux, with two notable exceptions.

Firstly, our current firewall is a web proxy and filter. I don't think this
role will ever be fulfilled by AstLinux (though AIF's to-do lists it -
http://rocky.eld.leidenuniv.nl/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=arti
cle&id=48&Itemid=79). I am therefore investigating OpenDNS as a potential
filtering route.

However, the one remaining function for which our current firewall is
invaluable is SMTP-level spam protection. We are currently only using two
techniques available on the box (RBL and greylisting, no content scanning at
all), but that is blocking around 45,000 spams a day, and letting in our
approx. 1000 legit emails. These numbers show you how crucial this function
is for us.

I've had a very quick look at Arno's Firewall, and can see no mention of
these features. Is this something anyone has looked at? Or can anyone
suggest an approach which might help us?

Many thanks as always

Tom


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