Hi Lonnie,

Thx for the info.  Looks like a great solution.

lach



On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Lach,
>
> That box has plenty of power for that application, even if you did
> transcoding on the calls.
>
> As a quick test I ran 4 concurrent calls (ulaw no transcoding but all go
> through asterisk with directmedia=no) and a simultaneous speed test of my
> 36M / 4M internet pipe... "top" showed 97% idle.
>
> The Jetway JBC373F38W will give you a lot of headroom for the future.
>
> Something to consider, a SSD SATA drive may not be necessary for your
> storage needs, also consider the SLC based flash with either CF or mSATA ...
>
> Emphase 4000X Industrial CompactFlash Card 4 GB
> http://www.logicsupply.com/products/cf4000xi4g
>
> Western Digital SiliconDrive A100 4GB mSATA SLC
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820250064
>
> Every time AstLinux boots it does a fsck to ensure a clean file system,
> unnecessarily oversizing the SSD will add extra time to the boot process.
>  Also usually with MLC flash.  Of course if you need 32GB - 64GB of
> storage, then a SSD SATA drive is a good choice.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Lonnie
>
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Lachlan Dunlop wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > The jetway system: part number JBC373F38W.
> >
> > In a 2GB of ram config and an ssd hard drive.
> >
> > I have a 12 phone install, probably 6 concurrent calls max.  Is this box
> up to the task?  It will also be the firewall.
> >
> > Thx
> > Lach
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > I used Transcend "TS256MSK64V3N" - 2 GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM 1333 MHz
>  (1R/256Mx8/CL9)
> >
> > This is faster then what the JBC373F38W requires but I like to be able
> to swap stuff around.
> >
> > I found a good deal on Amazon a few months ago, sigh no deal now.  Logic
> Supply carries it.
> >
> > Note, it requires x8 not x16 RAM.
> >
> > Lonnie
> >
> >
> > On Apr 23, 2013, at 10:14 PM, The Cadillac Kid wrote:
> >
> > > what RAM do you recommend for it? i had issues with Crucial in my
> other Jetway boxes..  just interested to know what you use..
> > > although I think the NF99FL-525 takes 1066.. surprised to see this one
> takes 800..
> > > -Christopher
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Lonnie Abelbeck <[email protected]>
> > > To: AstLinux Users Mailing List <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 10:23 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] Jetway JBC373F38W Atom D525 Fanless
> Appliance
> > >
> > > Quick followup:
> > >
> > > Newegg is now also offering the JBC373F38W (HBJC373F38W) for $250 US +
> shipping.
> > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856107120
> > >
> > > Note: Newegg uses the part number of HBJC373F38W rather than the model
> number of JBC373F38W.  Same box.
> > >
> > > Lonnie
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 19, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > We have added a new addition to our "Generic x86" hardware list...
> > > >
> > > > Jetway JBC373F38W Atom D525 Fanless Appliance
> > > > http://doc.astlinux.org/userdoc:board_jetway_jbc373f38w
> > > >
> > > > This newly released appliance ("Fanless Networking Barebone" as
> Jetway calls it) uses the same Intel Atom D525 CPU as the other Jetway
> boards use, the primary difference is there is no fan required due to the
> included heat-sink case.
> > > >
> > > > Functionally, the Jetway JBC373F38W is essentially identical to the
> Jetway NF9HQL-525 mini-ITX board, though they are completely different
> board designs.  In fact, I removed the DDR3 RAM and CF card from my
> NF9HQL-525 and installed it into the JBC373F38W, it worked perfectly.  Only
> a tweak in the /mnt/kd/sensors.conf file was needed for proper hardware
> monitoring.  The JBC373F38W provides a VGA console connector, a second
> Serial port and a set of front panel LED's.
> > > >
> > > > I personally purchased the Jetway JBC373F38W from Logic Supply for
> $319, the only additionally costs are one stick of DDR3 SO-DIMM RAM and a
> CF card.  The aluminum case feels surprisingly heavy.
> > > >
> > > > Note: There is both a JBC373F38 and JBC373F38W version, the "W"
> includes a WiFi Mini PCI-e card and antenna.  But since the "W" version is
> only $5 (I'm told) more from Jetway, resellers will probably only stock the
> "W" version.  The WiFi Mini PCI-e card and antenna can be easily removed
> for use with AstLinux.
> > > >
> > > > The AstLinux extra features including hardware watchdog, hwmon
> sensors, on/off button and startup/shutdown sounds via the internal speaker
> are all supported with our kernel.  The on/off button is recessed so for
> testing this is a minor con, but for production that may be a pro.  The
> internal speaker seems different from the NF9HQL-525, it is more 'screechy'
> sounding, possibly on purpose because of the tightly closed case.
> > > >
> > > > The Jetway JBC373F38W draws the same total power as the NF9HQL-525,
> 15 Watts.  (For reference, the net5501 is 9 Watts)
> > > >
> > > > A minor con is how the case is accessed.  While a single screw
> allows access and nicely holds a 2.5" SATA SSD, changing a CF card via that
> access panel is difficult unless you are an expert at the classic game
> "Operation".  The case can be opened completely (required to remove the
> WiFi card) but requires removing ten (10) small screws.  Though a mSATA SSD
> can be easily changed via the single screw access panel, I tested a
> "Western Digital SLC A100 4GB mSATA SSD" (newegg.com) and it worked
> nicely.
> > > >
> > > > Summary:
> > > >
> > > > The Jetway JBC373F38W appears to be a good box for a VoIP-only
> AstLinux acting as the router.  The fanless operation keeps the dust out,
> no fan to fail, and silent.
> > > >
> > > > By contrast the Jetway NF9HQL-525 provides a PCIe expansion slot,
> and a more general mini-ITX design, for a somewhat lower total system
> price.  For example currently at Logic Supply the Jetway JBC373F38W is $319
> US while the equivalent Jetway NF9HQL-525 + M350 case + AC Adapter (60W
> brick) is $280 US.  Both additionally require a stick of DDR3 RAM and flash
> storage.  As usual, heat-pipe or heat-sink cases are more expensive to
> build.
> > > >
> > > > The Jetway JBC373F38W is currently available worldwide via Logic
> Supply and possibly other sources like Newegg in the future.
> > > >
> > > > Clearly there is no one best AstLinux hardware solution, but in my
> limited testing, the Jetway JBC373F38W seems like a good option for
> AstLinux.
> > > >
> > > > Lonnie
> > >
> > >
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