On Jan 23, 2014, at 2:13 PM, John Novack wrote:

> 
> Michael Keuter wrote:
>> Am 23.01.2014 um 14:50 schrieb John Novack <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>> I use HP Thin Clients, and some time ago moved to either 512 or 1 Gig flash 
>>> drives
>>> I don't use a CF card, but a replacement plug in from Transcend that is a 
>>> direct plug in replacement for any of the 55XX or 57XX Thin Clients
>>> The cost is similar, as one has to find a CF adapter, make sure it fits ( 
>>> some need slight modification ) then a CF card. A Transcend flash comes in 
>>> close in cost, and always fits and works.
>>> 256 flash is just too small for newer versions of AstLinux, though I 
>>> believe transcend still makes them. The cost difference is slight
>>> I have some thin clients with only 128M of ram, and for light duty that 
>>> works well. Some of the older thin clients can't expand the ram.
>>> 
>>> Astlinux is great, with constant improvements. I just hope  "feature creep" 
>>> doesn't set in  too deeply!!
>>> 
>>> John Novack
>> That exactly was the reason, why we stopped supporting the PCEngines WRAP 
>> and the Soekris net4801 one year ago beginning with AstLinux 1.1.0, because 
>> there are versions with only 128 MB RAM.
>> If you need it, you can still build your own images and leave out all the 
>> packages you don't need. I do that as well, because I have a customer with a 
>> WRAP as router.
>> Or use our http://www.build.astlinux.org page and strip down the image.
> I fear that "rolling my own" is well above my pay grade, but for our purposes 
> ( a simple node on the peer to peer Collectors network ) mostly with one call 
> in progress, no firewall or multiple Ethernet ports, and a very simple 
> dialplan, even 128M of ram works with megs to spare. Noloading many of the 
> unused Asterisk modules helps as well
> I don't often even use these anymore, but the ones in use do work, and no 
> real plans to upgrade in the near future.  New units mostly are set up with 
> 512M ram or better, and usually 5720 or 5730 models.
> 
> John Novack

Keep in mind that for 256 MB RAM and higher boards the uncompressed AstLinux 
image is copied into memory as a tmpfs mount (ie. in RAM).  For the special 
case with less than 256 MB RAM, the AstLinux image is left mounted to the CF 
card via a loop mount.

So for the 128 MB RAM special case, the size of the AstLinux image does not 
effect the overall system RAM usage.

I think the biggest reason we chose to discontinue support of the WRAP and 
net4801 is the slow CPU speed, which can only route traffic at a fraction of 
most user's internet download speeds today, let alone also be a PBX.  But for 
special cases like John's they can still be useful with AstLinux.

Lonnie


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