Yes, you beat me to it, the APU1 SD card is via USB, which I'm not a big fan 
of.  And somehow an SD card does not give me that long-term quality feel.

Lonnie


On Nov 17, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Michael Keuter <[email protected]> wrote:

> The SD card in the APU is connected via the USB bus, so it will be not like a 
> CF card.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Michael
> 
>> Am 17.11.2014 um 23:03 schrieb Michael Knill 
>> <[email protected]>:
>> 
>> Thanks Lonnie
>> 
>> The APU does have an SD card slot and you can purchase SLC SD cards. Do you 
>> think this is a viable option? Is it any less reliable than CF? 
>> 
>> Regards
>> Michael Knill
>> 
>> 
>> On 18 Nov 2014, at 3:16 am, Lonnie Abelbeck <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree the mSATA version (SDSA6DM-032G) is hard to find at the moment.  The 
>> 2.5" SATA version (SDSA6GM-032G) is easier, but ebay is still the best 
>> choice currently here in the US.
>> 
>> So far the SanDisk U110's are working well for me, the mSATA version is in 
>> my Jetway JBC373F38W (which runs warm normally) and from the S.M.A.R.T data 
>> the "194 Temperature_Celsius" runs about 10 C higher than the "SYS Temp 
>> (typically 50 C)" around 60 C. The drive reached 66 C at one point.  But no 
>> issues.
>> 
>> The 2.5" version in a Lanner Atom C2358 box and runs only 2 C above "SYS 
>> Temp (typically 45 C)" around 47 C. The drive's S.M.A.R.T max was only 51 C 
>> at one point.
>> 
>> I realize the APU1 begs for a mSATA, though it seems in my testing the 2.5" 
>> version does run cooler since the plastic case is insulating and is often 
>> mounted somewhat away from the heat.
>> 
>> Lonnie
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Michael Knill 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Lonnie
>>> 
>>> I am still having trouble sourcing the mSATA version of this product. Very 
>>> tempted to purchase Emphase actually.
>>> Have you found a reliable distributor? (that can send to Australia)
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Michael Knill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 1:09 pm, Lonnie Abelbeck <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Michael,
>>> 
>>> SanDisk products should be available worldwide, aren't they ?
>>> 
>>> The U110 replaces the previous U100 series, they may be working through the 
>>> transition now, keep checking.
>>> 
>>> Lonnie
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Michael Knill 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Lonnie
>>>> 
>>>> Looks good. Seems a little hard to source overall.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Michael Knill
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 10:27 am, Lonnie Abelbeck <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Fewer new x86 boxes are offering CompactFlash sockets as was the 
>>>> defacto-standard for many years.  In addition, the price of CF cards seem 
>>>> to be going up.
>>>> 
>>>> On the other hand many SATA SSD storage offerings start at 64-128 GB and 
>>>> overkill for an AstLinux system and priced accordingly.
>>>> 
>>>> Given that, we may have found a good SATA SSD that balances, capacity, 
>>>> price and durability.
>>>> 
>>>> SanDisk U110 mSATA/SATA SSD
>>>> http://www.sandisk.com/products/ssd/sata/u110/
>>>> 
>>>> Of interest are the mSATA and 2.5" SATA versions.  For AstLinux testing I 
>>>> have purchased a couple off ebay...
>>>> 
>>>> mSATA - "SanDisk U110 SDSA6DM-032G"
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/161405317721/
>>>> 
>>>> 2.5" SATA - "SanDisk U110 SDSA6GM-032G"
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/151394742857/
>>>> 
>>>> The U110 include capacitors for power-loss protection: 
>>>> SanDisk - Unexpected Power Loss Protection - White Paper
>>>> http://www.sandisk.com/assets/docs/unexpected_power_loss_protection_final.pdf
>>>> 
>>>> And a small amount the the U110 flash is configured as SLC for a write 
>>>> cache (nCache).
>>>> 
>>>> The U110 2.5" case is plastic (not metal) but in some situations that may 
>>>> help conducting heat from the bracket *into* the SSD.  BTW, no mounting 
>>>> screws are provided.
>>>> 
>>>> So far in my testing they work well, I'm trying to abuse them :-)  The 
>>>> SanDisk U110 series seems like a good match for the boxes we use, but who 
>>>> knows how they will perform longterm.
>>>> 
>>>> The 32GB parts have an endurance spec of 20 TBW (TeraBytes Written), which 
>>>> related to AstLinux voicemail storage often writes to disk the most...
>>>> --
>>>> Voicemail Writes: 26 KB/sec  (.wav, .WAV, .ulaw)
>>>> 
>>>> Endurance: 20 TBW (32 GB) -> 3500 minutes/day, every day for 10 years
>>>> --
>>>> So even if the 20 TBW is somewhat best-case there is plenty of margin for 
>>>> a typical Astlinux system.
>>>> 
>>>> The SanDisk U110 series also offers 16GB versions, at 10 TBW endurance, 
>>>> somewhat less expensive but harder to find at this time.
>>>> 
>>>> Finally, SanDisk offers a nice "SSD Dashboard" application, but only for 
>>>> Windows, view info, update firmware, etc. .  Though I was able to run it 
>>>> using VMware Fusion on OS X using Windows 7 via a USB 2.0 connection and 
>>>> this adapter:
>>>> http://www.startech.com/HDD/Adapters/USB-3-SATA-adapter-cable-with-UASP~USB3S2SAT3CB
>>>> 
>>>> SanDisk SSD DASHBOARD INSTALLER (Windows Only)
>>>> http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/15108/~/sandisk-ssd-dashboard-support-information
>>>> 
>>>> It is too soon to say if the SanDisk U110 SSD series is a great AstLinux 
>>>> storage option, do your own research and try one if you want to test.
>>>> 
>>>> Lonnie
>>>> 
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