David,

You will want a VLAN switch (managed to some degree) if you want to use them.  
I have had good luck with Netgear PoE switches.  Management also benefits the 
PoE side of things, if only for power monitoring.

A simple example...

eth0 - external

eth1 - LAN - 10.10.10.1/24 (using existing unmanaged switch)

eth2 - Untagged for Data port - 10.10.20.1/24  (using PoE/VLAN switch)
eth2.21 Tagged VLAN (21) for Voice - 10.10.21.1/24  (using PoE/VLAN switch)

So one ethernet cable would connect AstLinux's "eth2" NIC to the VLAN switch 
non-PoE Port, which would be configured for untagged and VLAN 21 frames.  Each 
PoE port for an IP Phone would also be configured for untagged and VLAN 21 
frames.

When using VLAN's you need to plan ahead on paper, and expect to do a factory 
reset of your switch when you lock yourself out. :-)

VLAN's are very useful, and a great skill to have, but it takes a little time 
to get comfortable with them.  Let's say you want to only use a single PoE/VLAN 
switch for your network, then you would want to make your LAN network a VLAN...
--
eth1.10 - LAN Tagged VLAN (10) - 10.10.10.1/24 (using PoE/VLAN switch)
--
So additionally one ethernet cable would connect AstLinux's "eth1" NIC to the 
VLAN switch non-PoE Port, which would be configured for only VLAN 10 frames, 
then for each LAN connection to the switch you would specify an untagged Port 
tied to VLAN 10.

Adding to this you could also have a DMZ network...
--
eth1.10 - LAN Tagged VLAN (10) - 10.10.10.1/24 (using PoE/VLAN switch)
eth1.50 - LAN Tagged VLAN (50) - 10.10.50.1/24 (using PoE/VLAN switch)
--
Then the "eth1" NIC to the VLAN switch non-PoE Port, which would be configured 
for both VLAN 10 and VLAN 50 frames, DMZ switch ports would be untagged tied to 
VLAN 50.

Personally I have separate switches for my LAN/DMZ and my (PoE) IP Phone 
Voice/DATA networks.  Though both switches are configured with VLAN's.


On the other hand, if you don't have a need for a data port in your phone, 
simplify with untagged 100 Mbps IP Phone ports.

Lonnie




On Jun 9, 2015, at 10:39 PM, David Kerr <da...@kerr.net> wrote:

> To put the phones on a VLAN the switch I connect them to must support VLAN 
> right?  I'm looking at Netgear JGS516PE or JGS524PE which have both PoE and 
> VLAN.  However my current switch is a TP-SG1023D which says nothing about 
> VLAN in its specs. Can I run a VLAN on my network if only one of the switches 
> supports it (obviously I would connect Astlinux and any VLAN devices to the 
> primary switch).  I will need both switches to accommodate all devices on my 
> network (or I need to go to a 48 port switch with PoE and that gets 
> expensive).
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 9, 2015, Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> I'm sure Michael Keuter will chime in, as I know Yealink is his phone of 
> choice, and has deployed many of them.
> 
> Personally I have a Yealink SIP-T28P on my lab bench, excellent solid phone, 
> and great value. If I were replacing my IP Phones I would use Yealink, though 
> I'd choose a smaller model than the T28P (assuming you don't have a 
> receptionist at home :-) ) .  My darn Cisco/Linksys SPA-942's I have just 
> work and work, almost 10 years old and no need of replacing.
> 
> Now the question 100 Mbps or 1 Gbps, if you are going to use the data 
> ethernet port for a PC or such then 1 Gbps is probably good, and the 
> corresponding PoE switch with VLAN's for untagged traffic for the data 
> ethernet port and place your phone on a VLAN. (I do that with my SPA-942's, 
> mostly because I can.)
> 
> AstLinux's PhoneProv tab has a few default templates for Yealink phones, 
> which you may tweak for the specific model you choose.
> 
> I'll defer to Michael and others for the best models to consider.
> 
> Lonnie
> 
> 
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 8:19 PM, David Kerr <da...@kerr.net> wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone have experience with Yealink phones.  Quality, reliability, 
> > features, function?  I'm thinking of upgrading my phones and am considering 
> > T46G/T42G for desktop and W52P for wireless.  They are competitively priced 
> > for the features and there seems to be good support from their website.
> >
> > Thanks
> > David
> 
> 
> 
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