Why does there even need to be resolution code at all in a download page? Seems 
silly to even have it there.

Much better ways of browser detection are out there
Christopher

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On Sat, 3/11/17, David Kerr <da...@kerr.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] OK - I give up
 To: "AstLinux Users Mailing List" <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
 Date: Saturday, March 11, 2017, 3:38 AM
 
 Somewhere to check for a
 solution perhaps ...
 http://detectmobilebrowsers.com/
 
 David
 
 On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 12:52 AM Lonnie
 Abelbeck <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>
 wrote:
 
 >
 John,
 >
 > > Many of
 us (older ) users
 >
 >
 You can't play the old card with me :-)
 >
 >
 >
 > I also assume there is no fix other than change screen
 resolution
 >
 >
 > Possibly we could come up with a more
 detailed "@media" CSS rule, but what
 > we use is standard (common) practice. 
 I'll take a look but no promises.
 >
 > If you view source of
 the page you will see the download .iso URL's,
 > though a little messy.
 >
 >
 >
 > I assume the earlier browsers don't even speak CSS,
 so they work
 >
 > At
 least they don't understand the "@media" CSS
 tag, that was supported a
 > few years ago
 by browsers.  By default, if the CSS tag is ignored, a
 > desktop browser is assumed.
 >
 > Lonnie
 >
 >
 >
 On Mar 10, 2017, at 4:55 PM, John Novack SCII <jnov...@comcast.net>
 wrote:
 >
 > > Rule
 1:
 > > NEVER ASSUME!!!
 > >
 > > Many of us
 (older ) users  use 1024x768 and a LARGER monitor!
 > >
 > > There is no
 error message or clue that this is the case.  That might
 > help?
 > > Breaking
 rule 1:
 > > I assume the earlier
 browsers don't even speak CSS, so they work
 > >
 > > I also
 assume there is no fix other than change screen
 resolution
 > >
 >
 > Mobile friendly?
 > >
 > > JN
 > >
 > >
 > > Lonnie
 Abelbeck wrote:
 > >> Hi John,
 > >>
 > >> The
 www.astlinux-project.org site is "mobile friendly"
 and includes
 > CSS of the form:
 > >> --
 > >>
 @media only screen and (max-device-width: 1024px) {
 > >>   ...
 > >> }
 > >>
 --
 > >>
 >
 >> So on devices with a "max-device-width"
 of 1024 or less are considered
 > mobile
 devices that can't download ISO images and displays the
 message:
 > >> --
 > >> Download:  Use a desktop browser
 to download an ISO Installer Image
 >
 >> --
 > >>
 > >> We had "assumed" any
 modern desktop environment would be larger then
 > 1024 pixels.
 >
 >>
 > >> Sorry to cause you
 any grief.
 > >>
 > >> Lonnie
 >
 >>
 > >>
 >
 >> On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:57 PM, John Novack_PIV2
 <jnov...@comcast.net>
 > wrote:
 > >>
 > >>> OK Problem ( almost )
 solved
 > >>>
 > >>> IF the screen resolution is
 set to 1024x768   no links
 >
 >>>
 > >>> By changing
 to the next HIGHER resolution, the links appear!!
 > >>>
 >
 >>> Change to 800x600 no links
 >
 >>>
 > >>> JN
 > >>>
 >
 >>>
 > >>>
 > >>> John Novack_PIV2 wrote:
 > >>>> Curiouser and
 curiouser.
 > >>>> Called a
 friend and his firefox 51 something displays the links,
 as
 > his IE 11 same version as mine
 > >>>>
 >
 >>>> Below the screenshot from my Seamonkey
 > >>>>
 >
 >>>> Moving the mouse over where the links
 SHOULD be, nothing, so they are
 > not
 invisible
 > >>>>
 > >>>> JN
 >
 >>>>
 > >>>>
 > >>>>
 >
 >>>>
 > >>>>
 > >>>>
 >
 >>>> <Mail Attachment.png>
 > >>>> John Novack_PIV2
 wrote:
 > >>>>> It does
 NOT!!
 > >>>>> I just tried
 it with:
 > >>>>> IE 11 (
 UGH )
 > >>>>> Chrome (
 ugly )
 > >>>>> Seamonkey (
 Firefox variant )
 >
 >>>>>
 >
 >>>>> And none of them appear with the
 links?
 > >>>>> Windows 7
 64 bit
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> Moved to an older XP
 machine
 > >>>>> Seamonkey
 no different
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> IE 8 DOES appear with
 the links!
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> Is it my Aura?
 > >>>>> Is my W7 machine
 possessed?
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> Thanks for the
 help.
 > >>>>> Something
 need to be fixed on the website, or is it strictly local?
 > >>>>>
 >
 >>>>> JN
 >
 >>>>>
 >
 >>>>>
 >
 >>>>>
 >
 >>>>> Darrick Hartman wrote:
 > >>>>>> John,
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> The website
 should look like this with the links on the right.
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> Does it not look
 that way for you?
 >
 >>>>>>
 >
 >>>>>> http://www.astlinux-project.org/
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> Darrick
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> From: John
 Novack_PIV2 [mailto:jnov...@comcast.net]
 > >>>>>> Sent: Friday,
 March 10, 2017 2:54 PM
 >
 >>>>>> To: AstLinux Users Mailing List
 <
 > astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
 > >>>>>> Subject:
 [Astlinux-users] OK - I give up
 >
 >>>>>>
 >
 >>>>>> I know I am getting older by the
 day, and the brain is slower and
 >
 thicker every hour, and the eyes are failing fast,  but I
 have been around
 > and around the website
 several times looking for a link to  download an
 > ISO.  The links seem to lead in a
 circle.
 > >>>>>> The
 mirror site only throws up XML files, meaningless/useless to
 me
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> The "new
 install" documentation says to download from the
 "astLinux
 > website"  which
 leads back to astlinux-project.org but I can't find
 any
 > links that provide iso files.
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> LOTS of
 documentation on specific boards, but no ISO.
 > >>>>>> The geni586  has
 no link anywhere..
 >
 >>>>>> Does someone need to look over the
 documentation with a fresh eye?
 >
 >>>>>> What I need is the LAST 586 ISO
 with Sangoma support  1.2.8 I
 > believe,
 but I find nothing that a noobe can download.
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> Also is there any
 way to do an upgrade to anything short of the
 > latest version?
 >
 >>>>>>
 >
 >>>>>> Any help for this old 20th century
 person?
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> John Novack
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> --
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