Hi David, > But this thread has got me interested in a related topic, and that is getting > a gateway device on which I could run VMware ESXi and then run Astlinux in > that. The same box could then also run some other VM's (for e.g. Ubiquiti > UniFi Controller, PiHole, whatever). Right now I am running Unifi inside a > VM on QEMU on Astlinux (a custom build) but it might make sense to move to > ESXi.
Excellent idea. Learning how to manage a VM host is a good skill to have. From my research people have successfully run VMware ESXi and Proxmox on the HPE MicroServer which has 4 actual cores (no hyper-threading) and AMD has fewer side-channel exploit issues than Intel. Though for CPU performance, even my Qotom i3-6100U tests slightly over 2x of the AMD X3421 ... the i7-7500U would be faster but possibly pushing the heat dissipation rate of the case. The Qotom's extra NIC's could be useful if they can be passed native to a VM guest, an Intel i211 NIC pcie card could be added to the MicroServer if extra NIC's are needed. The MicroServer clearly wins on disk options with good cooling, the single Qotom 2.5" SSD could get cooked inside the i7 case ... a mSATA disk would even get hotter. The MicroServer supports up to 32 GB of RAM, the Qotom is 16 GB max. Though 8 GB should get you started. I really don't know which box would provide the better VM Host server ... I'm sure others here have more experience than I. Lonnie > On Jun 4, 2019, at 1:22 PM, David Kerr <da...@kerr.net> wrote: > > So on the surface this looks attractive, but on further investigation I think > its better to separate my NAS requirements from my Firewall/Phone. This box > has pretty basic RAID capabilities and the HDDs are not hot swappable. I'm > also not sure I want my NAS on the same box as my network gateway... if power > goes out I want to run my gateway for as long as possible on the UPS, whereas > I am happy to let my NAS shutdown and power off for duration of the power > outage (which sadly are quite frequent for me). > > But this thread has got me interested in a related topic, and that is getting > a gateway device on which I could run VMware ESXi and then run Astlinux in > that. The same box could then also run some other VM's (for e.g. Ubiquiti > UniFi Controller, PiHole, whatever). Right now I am running Unifi inside a > VM on QEMU on Astlinux (a custom build) but it might make sense to move to > ESXi. > > I'm wondering if the Qotom boxes are good enough for ESXi. I just came > across a 6th gen i7 version with 6 NIC's... Q575G6. Looks new, so not > locally stocked yet -- would have to come from china. > > David > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 6:37 PM Michael Knill > <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote: > Hmm interesting. Firewall, Phone and NAS all in one box! > > Regards > Michael Knill > > On 4/6/19, 8:19 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote: > > The MicroServer includes basic hardware RAID (0,1,10 IIRC) support using > a Marvell chip > -- > 01:00.0 SATA controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE9230 PCIe SATA > 6Gb/s Controller (rev 11) > -- > At BIOS boot you can type Control-M to configure the builtin hardware > RAID. I did not play with this. > > For serious NAS applications a SAS PCIe card and SAS drives would > probably be the way to go. This overview video did that > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3QQBHIjtGI > > Lonnie > > > > > On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:06 PM, David Kerr <da...@kerr.net> wrote: > > > > This box is begging for RAID support across the 4 drive bays. How > would you suggest going about that? > > > > David > > > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 5:20 PM Lonnie Abelbeck > <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote: > > A newly released hardware description and configuration has been added > to the AstLinux documentation: > > > > HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 AMD X3421 > > https://doc.astlinux-project.org/userdoc:board_hpe_microserver_x3421 > > > > I personally purchased a HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 (Model: > P04923-S01) (8G RAM, No SSD) via Amazon: > > > > HPE ProLiant Microserver Gen10 ... > > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DFPDRV8/ > > > > $329.00 USD -- Solution Model: P04923-S01, AMD X3421 CPU, 4-core @2.1 > GHz, 8G RAM > > > > $ 8.00 USD -- ORICO 2.5 to 3.5 Hard Drive Adapter HDD SSD Mounting > Bracket Tray (32GB SSD laying around) > > > > $ 0.00 USD -- Shipping (Included) > > > > First you might ask, a 9" cube with 4 drive bays, this is not a typical > AstLinux hardware description ... yes you are correct. The reason this box > caught my eye was several fold: > > > > 1) Good value with 8G DDR4 RAM included, puts the barebone > board/case/power-supply price at around $200 USD. > > 2) Can run AstLinux either bare-metal or as a guest VM with a > hypervisor on the MicroServer. Start a project bare-metal and transition to > a VM later if needed. > > 3) Widely obtainable, backed by HP Enterprise and should have a long > run on ebay as the years go by. > > 4) Good reviews [1] (and FYI Overview Video [2]). > > > > The MicroServer's AMD X3421 performance falls between the faster Qotom > Q530G6 (Core i3-6100U) and slower Qotom Q190G4N-S07 (Celeron J1900). About > 3x the performance of a PC Engines APU2. > > > > The power consumption is relatively low for this kind of box, idles at > 16 W. And runs cool at idle, k10temp reports 23 degC CPU (measured on the > board, not CPU core) (ambient temp is 22 degC / 72 degF). The large but > quiet fan is overkill for a bare-metal AstLinux install. > > > > The HPE MicroServer offers: > > -- Lots of configuration options. > > -- Supports Video (VGA) Console > > -- Supports 2.5" SSD (with 2.5" to 3.5" tray) > > -- 2x Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5720 NIC's > > -- 2x PCIe low-profile slots > > -- Power button > > > > The MicroServer requires DDR4 RAM, dual 288-pin UDIMM's, 8GB to 32GB > supported. > > > > No surprise, line-speed 1Gbps network routing and line-speed WireGuard > VPN with 50% headroom. > > > > The HPE MicroServer Gen10 X3421 has run solidly for a few days, further > updates as needed. > > > > Lonnie > > > > [1] Review > https://www.servethehome.com/hpe-proliant-microserver-gen10-review/ > > > > [2] Overview Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3QQBHIjtGI > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Astlinux-users mailing list > > Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users > > > > Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to > pay...@krisk.org. > > _______________________________________________ > > Astlinux-users mailing list > > Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users > > > > Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to > pay...@krisk.org. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Astlinux-users mailing list > Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users > > Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to > pay...@krisk.org. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Astlinux-users mailing list > Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users > > Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to > pay...@krisk.org. > _______________________________________________ > Astlinux-users mailing list > Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users > > Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to > pay...@krisk.org. _______________________________________________ Astlinux-users mailing list Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to pay...@krisk.org.
