Yes, but test for sure.

Lonnie



> On May 23, 2021, at 8:37 PM, Michael Knill 
> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
> 
> You mentioned to not do 'ip link set dev wg0 down && ip link set dev wg0' up 
> as that will cause problems only a reboot can fix.
> But its ok to do:
> ip link set dev eth0 down
> sleep 4
> ip link set dev eth0 up
> ?
> 
> Just confirming.
> 
> Regards
> Michael Knill
> 
> On 24/5/21, 11:30 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote:
> 
>> Ah so it was just wg0 that you cant do this for?
> 
>    There is only wg0 for the standard WG configuration.
> 
>    Not sure what you are asking.
> 
>    Lonnie
> 
> 
>> On May 23, 2021, at 8:25 PM, Michael Knill 
>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Ah so it was just wg0 that you cant do this for?
>> 
>> Regards
>> Michael Knill
>> 
>> On 24/5/21, 9:31 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2021, at 5:42 PM, Michael Knill 
>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just thinking about it, I don't think I ever tried a Reload as I thought a 
>>> Restart would effectively do the same thing. Interesting that it appears to 
>>> not be the case.
>> 
>>   "Restart" always works, destroys wg0 and builds it again, restarts the 
>> firewall, etc., but effects active WG tunnels and some may stall for 20 
>> seconds during the process.
>> 
>>   "Reload" is optimized to not effect active WG tunnels and only apply 
>> add/remove/edits to the peers.  Very quick.
>> 
>> 
>>> PS is there anything I can do to restart a NIC e.g. drop link and bring up 
>>> again? I have had some issues with Wireguard when behind a firewall that 
>>> this fixes, albeit possibly breaking other things?
>>> Note the problem is actually the firewall not Wireguard and dropping the 
>>> link clears the firewall translation table so it then works.
>> 
>>   Example: toggle "eth0" link
>>   --
>>   ip link set dev eth0 down
>>   sleep 4
>>   ip link set dev eth0 up
>>   --
>>   Test to make sure it works as expected.
>> 
>>   In AstLinux pulling the network cable and re-inserting it should always 
>> work, the above should do the same from inside.
>> 
>> 
>>   Lonnie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Michael Knill
>>> 
>>> On 24/5/21, 7:42 am, "Michael Knill" <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Thanks Lonnie. I will test this next time
>>> 
>>>  Regards
>>>  Michael Knill
>>> 
>>>  On 23/5/21, 10:29 pm, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>      Hi Michael,
>>> 
>>>      There is a discussion over on the WireGuard mailing list [1], with a 
>>> similar situation as you describe.
>>> 
>>>      A reporter suggests the equivalent of AstLinux "Reload WireGuard VPN" 
>>> (not Restart) fixes things.  Though it would seem a DNS endpoint was 
>>> changing and causing loss of WG connection in the [1] discussion.  Not 
>>> exactly the same as you describe.
>>> 
>>>      Bottom line, to answer your question, it is always "safe" to issue 
>>> "Reload WireGuard VPN" via the web interface and not disrupt any active WG 
>>> connections.  Or from the command line:
>>>      --
>>>      service wireguard reload
>>>      --
>>> 
>>>      Again, NEVER do:
>>>      --
>>>      service network restart
>>>      -- and/or --
>>>      ip link set dev wg0 down && ip link set dev wg0 up
>>>      --
>>>      as that will cause problems only a reboot can fix.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      Back to your issue, I would take David Kerr's advice and add 
>>> "PersistentKeepalive = 25" to the troublesome peer and see if that makes a 
>>> difference.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      Lonnie
>>> 
>>>      [1] https://lists.zx2c4.com/pipermail/wireguard/2021-May/006761.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 18, 2021, at 4:27 PM, Michael Knill 
>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm same problem again with two of my sites.
>>>> Only one of the two Wireguard VPN's are down. I have tried the following:
>>>> arno-iptables-firewall restart
>>>> service network restart
>>>> pppoe-restart
>>>> ip link set dev wg0 down & ip link set dev wg0 up
>>>> 
>>>> All to no avail. Any other ideas before I reboot?
>>>> PS there is no failover configured for this site so I don't think MTU is 
>>>> the issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Michael Knill
>>>> 
>>>> On 20/3/21, 2:09 pm, "Michael Knill" <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks. Guess I will need to test it out.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Michael Knill
>>>> 
>>>> On 20/3/21, 2:03 pm, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>    While playing with the WG MTU, it seemed to work with only setting one 
>>>> end and the tunnel used the smallest, but I played it safe and set 
>>>> everything to 1340.
>>>> 
>>>>    It would be good to know what the precise answer is.
>>>> 
>>>>    Lonnie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 9:57 PM, Michael Knill 
>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Lonnie.
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS I was just thinking (dangerous I know). I would need to set it on both 
>>>>> ends so do you think there would there be any issues with different MTU's 
>>>>> at each end?
>>>>> Ultimately it would be the same eventually but there would be a migration 
>>>>> period.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Michael Knill
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 20/3/21, 1:41 pm, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven't seen any issues with a WG MTU of 1340, yet anyway.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lonnie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 9:29 PM, Michael Knill 
>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Lonnie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hmm that may have something to do with it. Might also be when it fails 
>>>>>> over to 4G.
>>>>>> As most of my VPN's carry voice only, I think a standard MTU of 1340 for 
>>>>>> all my systems should be fine. What do you think?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Michael Knill
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 20/3/21, 10:40 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have not experienced anything like that, WireGuard connectivity is 
>>>>>> rock solid for me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't recall later WireGuard versions having any fixes for what you 
>>>>>> are describing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just guessing, the standard MTU for WG is 1420 (1500-80), if you have a 
>>>>>> PPPoE connection with a MTU of 1492 you might try setting the WG MTU to 
>>>>>> 1412 (1500-8-80) or lower to test.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm testing a 4G-LTE/5G fixed wireless internet service from T-Mobile, 
>>>>>> they use Carrier Grade NAT (CGNAT) for IPv4 which lowers the MTU to 1420 
>>>>>> (just like WG) so WG needs a MTU setting of 1340 to work over the CGNAT 
>>>>>> or else it hangs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lonnie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 3:42 PM, Michael Knill 
>>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Group
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this. I'm on 1.3.10 and all my 
>>>>>>> systems connect via Wireguard VPN to both my softswitches.
>>>>>>> Its generally all pretty stable but occasionally one of the VPN’s will 
>>>>>>> be disconnected and I have tried everything I can think of to bring it 
>>>>>>> back up but only a reboot has managed to do so at this stage.
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Michael Knill
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